18-07-2016, 11:53 PM
David Guyatt Wrote:......
We are witnessing amazing changes...
Indeed we are.
Tracy Riddle Wrote:It was hysterical on Friday night to watch Robert Baer bragging about all the coups he has been involved in, and how they just weren't doing this one right.
Damn darkies, won't those people ever get it right!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cia-...08d334c32c
Oh, for the good old days ― when the CIA regularly assisted military coups d'états in foreign democracies.
Several former spooks appearing on CNN Friday night to discuss the attempted military coup in Turkey had more than a few pointers for the seemingly amateurish military officers leading the takeover efforts. And at least one contributor seemed more disappointed in their performance than relieved that the coup has thus far failed to topple a democratically elected government.
Leading the pack was Robert Baer, a veteran former CIA officer and author ― and, apparently, a former coup participant.
Baer told CNN anchor Anderson Cooper that the Turkish coup was "not professionally done."
::face.palm:: ::rofl:: ::puppet::
Drew Phipps Wrote:Erdogan and Sybel want to blame the CIA for the "coup", but I just don't see this as a covert act of a formidable (some people say "all powerful") state intelligence agency, especially the CIA, that has (to the US's considerable shame) a string of successful coups to their credit. If the CIA can topple governments seemingly at will, how can you then assert that, in this case, they didn't have the foresight or the ability to a) find a single pilot that would pull the trigger on Erdogan's plane, b) shut off international communications, c) equip riot gear, water cannons, or tear gas, d) find troops that would hold a bridge or an airport, e) secure some sort of international recognition of the new government (instead of a US pledge of support for the old government), or f) do really anything at all in a competent manner?
Sorry, this isn't a covert act of the US government. It may be designed to appear superficially to look like one, but the complete and utter failure of the "coup" to really accomplish anything at all (besides justify a purge of certain military officers and their men) or mount a credible threat of any kind, leads only to one reasonable conclusion: It was pure theater. Remember the Reichstag?
I think that's the point Drew. It was largely theatre. But who was the director? Script writer? Producer? BTW the international communications were shut down. I had a friend there who told us as such. Even Erdogan could only manage a Facetime interview with the journalist. There are always the free speech activists who help keep the lines of communication happening too. But by and large it was shut down during the coup.
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"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.