19-07-2016, 04:11 AM
(This post was last modified: 19-07-2016, 04:41 AM by Peter Lemkin.)
I think it is too early to tell for sure what went on...though we begin to see the outlines in the shadows. Some thoughts...
- Not all CIA blessed or run coups have succeeded - or done so fully.
- A seemingly failed coup could have been the plan by someone.
- I could have been badly planned, penetrated and allowed to go forward and fail due to the penetration, LIHOP, or false flag - or a mix.
- I think the reaction of ordinary Turkish citizens played a larger role than acknowledged - they just don't want anyone's coup from any direction to any end. They want democracy and not military rule nor dictatorship by anyone.
- It is possible a 'well planned' coup was moved up in date and thus failed - but highly unlikely.
- Certain aspects of what happened can only have been 'theater'.
- I sense that these events will have much larger/broader geopolitical impacts than most think - and I agree that this will realign or cause the restructuring of NATO and EU, among many other changes on the World stage.
- Turkey, while greatly ignored is a big nation, with a strong economy, and great geostrategic importance. This is no light-weight event in an unimportant nation.
- I think elements of the various 'schools of thought' on who was behind this and why might all be partly correct.
- We are not being told the full truth of what happened yet by anyone.
- I agree that the most puzzling part is the failure for the 'coup' to at least put up a real fight and for it to seemingly collapse so quickly and so many be arrested so easily. In this lies the keys to what really happened, I think.
- I'll bet that many of those arrested were used by someone and will be sacrificed for other's ambitions and plans.
- I'm leaning toward Edmond's analysis at this point, but entertain the others as possible corrections or alternatives.
- This is not going to just 'go away'...this will be a pivotal event for decades to come....and this may have only have been Act I.
- Turkey has just been destabilized and will remain so for a long time.
- The World has taken a step toward being less stable with this event in ways not yet fully clear. This may have been the real idea behind the event. I'd expect in a few years the Middle East to look completely different and with more suffering and wars.
- Things for the Syrians will get much worse quickly.
- Things, especially freedoms, for the average Turk will get worse.
- Keep an eye on who benefited, and I think in the long run it will not be Erdogan - though he acts now as the beneficiary. His end will come sooner than later.
- In some way the Russian - USA tensions play into this event....and they will increase.
- Not all CIA blessed or run coups have succeeded - or done so fully.
- A seemingly failed coup could have been the plan by someone.
- I could have been badly planned, penetrated and allowed to go forward and fail due to the penetration, LIHOP, or false flag - or a mix.
- I think the reaction of ordinary Turkish citizens played a larger role than acknowledged - they just don't want anyone's coup from any direction to any end. They want democracy and not military rule nor dictatorship by anyone.
- It is possible a 'well planned' coup was moved up in date and thus failed - but highly unlikely.
- Certain aspects of what happened can only have been 'theater'.
- I sense that these events will have much larger/broader geopolitical impacts than most think - and I agree that this will realign or cause the restructuring of NATO and EU, among many other changes on the World stage.
- Turkey, while greatly ignored is a big nation, with a strong economy, and great geostrategic importance. This is no light-weight event in an unimportant nation.
- I think elements of the various 'schools of thought' on who was behind this and why might all be partly correct.
- We are not being told the full truth of what happened yet by anyone.
- I agree that the most puzzling part is the failure for the 'coup' to at least put up a real fight and for it to seemingly collapse so quickly and so many be arrested so easily. In this lies the keys to what really happened, I think.
- I'll bet that many of those arrested were used by someone and will be sacrificed for other's ambitions and plans.
- I'm leaning toward Edmond's analysis at this point, but entertain the others as possible corrections or alternatives.
- This is not going to just 'go away'...this will be a pivotal event for decades to come....and this may have only have been Act I.
- Turkey has just been destabilized and will remain so for a long time.
- The World has taken a step toward being less stable with this event in ways not yet fully clear. This may have been the real idea behind the event. I'd expect in a few years the Middle East to look completely different and with more suffering and wars.
- Things for the Syrians will get much worse quickly.
- Things, especially freedoms, for the average Turk will get worse.
- Keep an eye on who benefited, and I think in the long run it will not be Erdogan - though he acts now as the beneficiary. His end will come sooner than later.
- In some way the Russian - USA tensions play into this event....and they will increase.
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass