27-07-2016, 01:44 AM
Further discussions with Brother Peter in this beautiful color.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Schultz is going to be booed out of her job tonight, I think.
Right on the mark there!...but it didn't take rocket science to see that was coming....now will Clinton dump her too? Hardly matters, as Clinton will surround herself with the same type of persons in a variety of disciplines - from Grand Warriors through Intelligence Big Boys along side Goldman-Sachs types and the petty business as usual in the Empire corrupted.
In 2016 the people have the internet and social media and the capability to organize quickly and with increasing effectiveness.
Let's get ready to hold Hillary's feet to the fire the way Bernie put her feet to the fire.
Hell, Hillary has been giving Bernie's stump speech for a couple of months.
When Hillary fucks up she catches holy and unholy Hell.
It ain't the 90's anymore...
I don't see how the Sanders 'revolution' can continue within the Democratic Party and it was, IMO, always a mistake to even try to build it there.
It's not up to Hillary or the Democrats.
It's up to us.
We must stay engaged or the entropy of Empire continues.
Look on the Left and an the Right there is common ground [that America has some HUGE problems and most are discontent at the decline in quality of life and salary, endless wars, fear (some real; most created) and an unease about the general path of society and its priorities.
Gas is going for $2.35 a gallon.
401ks are fatter than ever.
43 year low in layoffs.
For all its problems Obamacare freed a couple of million people from "job lock" -- where folks kept jobs they hated just to get the health insurance.
Expanded Medicaid is the only instance of correction in over-all income inequality.
The negotiated removal of weapons of mass destruction from Syria and Iran wiped out the #1 rationale for War Against the Shia.
I can go to Cuba now.
Our electronic communications are no longer bulk collected by the NSA and fed into the DEA files on every American.
Yeah, a lot of people are pissed off.
Trump-chumps hate the fact that Obama and the Dems have scored many policy victories.
Our Bernie revolution is built on anger toward the Republican victories since Nixon which have crippled the middle-class.
The claim that Bernie and Putin's Bitch appeal to the same anger is bullshit.
Anytime Hillary bends toward the Dark Side the revolution must rise up!
We got the tools, damit.
No excuses change only comes from below and it's entirely ON US!!
How the Left and Right react to these are different and their solutions are different. I don't see room in the DNP of today for a progressive movement - it has to move outside of it if it is to survive. I am disappointed at Sanders who made the mistake to change from a Socialist to a Democrat.....but to most Americans the term 'Socialist' is just another spelling of 'Communist' and both are dirty words and concepts - such is the propaganda.
I don't know the exact equations for weighing evil, but I think on her worst day Clinton is awful, as is Trump.
This is a very interesting moral point, how to weigh evils.
I'd say it is preferable to deal with an evil that can be ameliorated, to a degree remedied or pushed-back against.
We can push back against Hillary.
President Donald Trump and his racist private army?
Time to buy weapons and get ready for war.
Perhaps on his worst day SANDERS is 100 times better than Trump; but on their average day my calculus is more in the area of Trump only being 2-3X as evil as Clinton [though they are evil in very different ways for the most part; but both elitists despite the rhetoric otherwise].
One is subject to political pressure, the other is not unless you're a Dominionist or Russian Oligarch.
It is a sad day for America, but which day is not? I would love to see something like the '60's revolution' again in the USA and had some hopes for OWS and Bernie Sanders - but both have now folded. Will it surface again and fight on? I can only hope so, but it HAS to be outside of the establishment political system which is set up to co-opt progressive ideas and positive changes for the majority of the US and World.
I think barring a scandal or unforeseen event Clinton will win...then what?...we have Big business as usual; wars as usual; banksters as usual; poverty growing as usual; an out of control series of black ops as usual. Do I think the platform changes pushed by Sanders will be adhered to by Clinton? NO!
Those who backed Sanders will become very disenchanted, just as those who backed Obama have become. We need third and forth and fifth parties with the ability to elect members to Congress and the Presidency. We need a whole new polity and fast.
In the end, do I think Sanders has made a lasting effect? Sadly, I think very little - though the discontent with the status quo is still there. The status quo is pro at deflecting discontent away from itself and sadly all too many are fooled time and time again (or simply confused or downtrodden into ineffectual effort).
We need a peaceful revolution in America and the World and that starts with the best of the not-evils, not the least of the evils......what it really needs is basically a movement without central leaders. Obama promised all kinds of things and outside of a few positive domestic steps turned out to be a disaster and not as advertised puppet of the MI+C. Clinton, outside of a few positive domestic steps will IMO be worse than Obama - not a move forward, but backwards.
Sanders is far from perfect - especially in his foreign policy - but compared to the others a breath of fresh air. Jill Stein of the Greens is infinitely better than Sanders, but few know the Green Party even exists and feel a vote for them is a 'wasted vote'. I say a vote for business/politics as usual is the wasted vote in the completely rigged system.