30-07-2016, 06:25 PM
Since the US Government hasn't said anything (AFAIK) about the "coup" except to state that it supports the democratically elected government of Turkey (a statement originally made when the outcome was yet unclear), when I say "the official position" I am referring to the government of Turkey's "official position," which is that Gulen led it, with US support. I cannot and do not believe that the US Government, if it did decide to instigate a coup in another country, would be so inept and spineless as the alleged "coup" Turkish participants are said to have been. Our recent history with "regime change" in both Syria and Libya shows you the modus operandi of the official US Government, as well as the fortitude and competence that US surrogates on their respective grounds have possessed. (I do not mean to imply approval of such, merely to contrast it with the Turkish situation.)
I believe this pretend "coup" is a power grab on Erdogan's part. There is plenty of historical similarity to other such power grabs, from Hitler's Reichstag fire, to Stalin's "Great Purge", to the Church Committee's finding that the FBI falsely blamed "enemies of the state" political activists for FBI-sponsored bombings under its "Cointelpro" program, Algeria, Latin America, 9/11 and Anthrax, ... (long list omitted). To quote the article David just cited:
There is even Seymour Hersh's uncovering of the Turkish role in the 2013 use of chemical weapons in Syria:
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/4/7/sy_...rkish_role
So, to the extent that the Turkish government could not have envisioned, or carried out, a false flag attack before 2013, there is good evidence that it has done so now.
I cannot, of course, prove that no Americans somehow played some role in this attempted "coup." I do think that anyone who trusts Erdogan and his government for the truth is bound to wind up quite disappointed, and any enemies of the US who think that the US government won't back up its surrogates is bound to wind up quite dead.
I believe this pretend "coup" is a power grab on Erdogan's part. There is plenty of historical similarity to other such power grabs, from Hitler's Reichstag fire, to Stalin's "Great Purge", to the Church Committee's finding that the FBI falsely blamed "enemies of the state" political activists for FBI-sponsored bombings under its "Cointelpro" program, Algeria, Latin America, 9/11 and Anthrax, ... (long list omitted). To quote the article David just cited:
Quote: Some of the returning (Fascist) Italians are suspected of joining ardent terrorists who engaged in a wave of bombings that rocked Italy throughout 1969 and into 1970, killing and wounding dozens of people. Many of those attacks were falsely attributed to anarchists and leftists, as part of a "strategy of tension" to build political support for an authoritarian crackdown on the Left by Italy's security services.
There is even Seymour Hersh's uncovering of the Turkish role in the 2013 use of chemical weapons in Syria:
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/4/7/sy_...rkish_role
So, to the extent that the Turkish government could not have envisioned, or carried out, a false flag attack before 2013, there is good evidence that it has done so now.
I cannot, of course, prove that no Americans somehow played some role in this attempted "coup." I do think that anyone who trusts Erdogan and his government for the truth is bound to wind up quite disappointed, and any enemies of the US who think that the US government won't back up its surrogates is bound to wind up quite dead.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."

