18-11-2016, 10:01 AM
Cliff Varnell Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:Quote:I just don't understand all the Dem-bashing when we're dealing with an overt fascist takeover by Republicans.
It's more a case of worse and worser rather than dumb and dumber. Had Hillary won WWIII was certainly on the cards. That appears to now have been averted - despite the rantings of John McCain.
Besides that, the US (and Europe for that matter) has been pushed increasingly to the right for almost 4 decades now. It has been based on a bedrock of utter selfishness and greed. The political establishment of the US (and Europe too) is no longer responsive to democratic input (until this year anyway) and simply adhered to oligarchical input.
From this mix of ingredients, fascism was always going to erupt in a lash back to deaf ears and political zealotry. It was inevitable.
Had Hillary won WWIII was certainly on the cards.
David, with all due respect, I find this a fundamental mis-reading of American foreign policy.
The only pre-text for wider war is weapons of mass destruction in the hands of the bad guys.
Why does America go to war?
For control of international oil and narcotics markets.With the low price of oil and the glut of pharm-smack why would Hillary start WW3?
China owns $3.2 trillion in US debt and the American consumer is a great engine of Chinese economic activity.
We're not going to war with China.
Or over Ukraine.
Or Syria.
But the new regime may want to go to war with Iran.
Hillary wasn't going to war over the Iran nuke deal -- that rationale had left town -- but the new guys want to tear it up and get after Tehran.
I fear your assessment that Trump brings "peace" may face future revisions.
We've been over this before, Cliff. I actually think it is you who continue to fundamentally misread US foreign policy or not read it, as the case may be. Meanwhile, almost every independent observer and analyst disagrees with you.
Meanwhile, please don't mis-charterise and mis-state what I've said. I've not said Trump will bring peace. My entire thrust has been about Hilary - with a particular focus on Syria (and less so, Ukraine).
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14