27-09-2009, 10:45 AM
Thanks for posting the John Lear deposition Jack.
Before entering the parasitical world of 'financial services' I achieved Chartered status as a marine engineer, so I'm not a complete dummy when it comes to the physical laws of power, velocity, drag, momentum etc on which much of the deposition is argued. I also found his description of visibility and the problems associated with controlling the aircraft at the alleged height/speed combination similarly persuasive, even though my flying experience is limited to having obtained a private pilots licence on open cockpit Tiger Moths over 40 years ago and dabbling in the world of gliders about 15 years ago.
In summary I found the deposition VERY persuasive indeed and I would love to see a point by point rebuttal from someone similarly qualified.
All of which is not to say that there were no planes; just that I regard it as yet another wide open question (albeit a gigantic one) which, if it really is so ridiculous, ought to be easily refuted by similar recourse to the laws of physics. Also that all the things that would logically follow from such a circumstance warrant continued research.
Personally I find it reassuring that that is exactly what appears to be happening; although I do agree that to baldly assert that 'there were no planes' in any 'consensus trance' type gathering is likely to provoke either gales of laughter or the summoning of people in white coats to cart you away in a strait-jacket.
Before entering the parasitical world of 'financial services' I achieved Chartered status as a marine engineer, so I'm not a complete dummy when it comes to the physical laws of power, velocity, drag, momentum etc on which much of the deposition is argued. I also found his description of visibility and the problems associated with controlling the aircraft at the alleged height/speed combination similarly persuasive, even though my flying experience is limited to having obtained a private pilots licence on open cockpit Tiger Moths over 40 years ago and dabbling in the world of gliders about 15 years ago.
In summary I found the deposition VERY persuasive indeed and I would love to see a point by point rebuttal from someone similarly qualified.
All of which is not to say that there were no planes; just that I regard it as yet another wide open question (albeit a gigantic one) which, if it really is so ridiculous, ought to be easily refuted by similar recourse to the laws of physics. Also that all the things that would logically follow from such a circumstance warrant continued research.
Personally I find it reassuring that that is exactly what appears to be happening; although I do agree that to baldly assert that 'there were no planes' in any 'consensus trance' type gathering is likely to provoke either gales of laughter or the summoning of people in white coats to cart you away in a strait-jacket.
Peter Presland
".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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