Hill at Oak Cliff

[David Josephs]

Well done, Mr. Josephs, appreciate the enlightening insights, thanks for sharing.

Have bookmarked your full article as well ( An excellent picture, confirming Roger Craig in Fritz's office btw)

My pleasure ...

Hope you get something from the article... as it appears to me within the evidence that both TL Baker and Barnes/Doughty are credited with having been given that pistol...


While all this is happening in WESTBROOK's office...

Mr. BALL. And tell me briefly who was present when you saw McDonald make the mark on the gun?
Mr. CARROLL. Well, let's see - there was myself, Mack, I think Ray Hawkins was there, and I believe Hutson
was there, and I believe Bentley and Lyons had already gone out to have their feet checked, and I don't
recall whether Captain Westbrook was in there at the time or not. There were so many people - I would
have to kind of explain that - I know it sounds vague, but there were so many people in and out of there
and there were about no less than anywhere from half a dozen to a dozen newspaper reporters in and out
and they were bringing in mikes and it was just a big mess of confusion. You couldn't just sit down and
detail this thing and say this man was at this particular spot at this time. It was so jumbled up there.
Mr. BALL. Whom did you give the gun to finally?
Mr. CARROLL. After I gave it to - Jerry Hill - that was the last time I had possession of it - possession of the
gun.
Mr. BALL. And did you know who took possession of the bullets?
Mr. CARROLL. I don't recall, sir. I don't recall even seeing the gun or the bullets turned over to anyone
by Hill.

Mr. HILL. The gun remained in my possession until it, from the time it was given to me until the gun was
marked and all the shells were marked. They remained in my personal possession. After they were
marked, they were released by me to Detective T. L. Baker of the homicide bureau. He came to the
personnel office and requested that they be given to him, and I marked them and turned them over to
him at this point.


Note: Capt WESTBROOK was Captain of PERSONNEL. Yet instead of calling the Tippit family he goes from crime scene to crime scene and NEVER bothers to call them.
The Tippit's learned of his death over the news.

So the above chain includes Bentley > Hill > TL Baker


Check out these two records: Davenport giving the pistol, shells, etc to both BARNES & Doughty.

Mr. BELIN. Did you have anything to do with identifying either the slugs that were eventually removed
from Officer Tippit's body, or the pistol?
Mr. W.E. BARNES. No.

Path 1. McDonald/Carroll > Hill > (initials from McD, Carroll, Hill, Bentley supposedly etched in handle by screw, yet no photo in evidence shows these initials) > Fritz > T.L. Baker > gone
Path 2. Fritz > Davenport & officers > Doughty/Barnes > SA Vincent Drain > FBI

Two distinct paths for the same pistol.... Somehow it appears Oswald's pistol from the theater is the on TL Baker makes disappear so that the pistol that was actually used could replace it...

The extent of the evidence is further explored in the essay.... but for those who don't think the devil/conspiracy is in the detail and within the evidence... check it out.
DJ