Death of the lunchroom hoax

[LR Trotter]

As I continue to read, and appreciate Richard GillBride's essay, that presents compelling reliable evidence that the Second Floor Lunch Room Encounter is not a "hoax", and did occur as testimony indicates, I suppose it shall be forever quite disappointing to me to read the repeated criticisms by others of DPD Solo Motorcycle Officer Marrion Lewis Baker, as a trained law enforcement officer, doing his job quite courageously and following his instincts.

He did not receive a "direct order" to disregard the TSBD Building and go to the railroad track area, as some have posted. He bravely, and alone, entered the building that appeared to be the location of a gunman, or gunmen, shooting from an upper area and possibly at the John Fitzgerald Kennedy Sr Presidential Motorcade,


that also included the FirstLady, Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy,Texas Governor John Bowden Connally Jr and First Lady Idanel Brill Connally in the Presidential Limousine, and followed by a Limousine carrying Vice President Lyndon Baines Johnson and wife Claudia Alta"LadyBird"Johnson, along with US Senator Ralph Webster Yarborough, with Police Officer Escorts, Secret Service Agents, as well as other Federal Agents, and other dignitaries and NewsReporters/Camermen at various positions in the motorcade. I have to consider other bravery as well, including that of TSBD Building Superintendent Roy Sansom Truly, as he and Officer Baker were among the first to began a building search for a shooter.


Just maybe, those of us that can recall 11/22/'63, and the early ambiguous and chaotic reports of the assassination attempt tend to have a different perspective overall.

[FONT=&amp]I am a bit confused LR. Is accuracy no longer required to make a statement of FACT? The man was in Dealey Plaza not 50 yards from the "railroad" track yet this beat cop knows better than the chief of Police... because he, "Had it ---" Had what LR? What do you think Baker knows despite being told to go to the RR yard? No, he did not disobey a direct order nor do I believe I say that... I said that he overrode the Police [/FONT]Chief's[FONT=&amp] order due to his having knowledge he believed Curry didn't... ok... this is not a "make or break" moment.

The entire rest of that run on sentence has no bearing on the man Baker calls out in his affidavit... or that Gillbride stretches the truth by claiming Johnson hears and relays things Baker said that were never written down or attributed to Baker... but he does so anyway?

And that doesn't even bother to touch upon the Prayerman analysis which uses junk science to make visual measurements and comparisons - which I also show distorts the conclusion that PM was 5'2".

I truly do not understand you POV on this one LR.... color me confused..

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Mr. BAKER - I heard Chief Curry, the chief of the police over there, say, "Get some men over on the railroad track." I think everyone at that time thought these shots came from the railroad track.
[B]Mr. BELIN - By "everyone" do you include you, too?
Mr. BAKER - No, Sir. I had it-- [B](I had it…. What?)
[B]I was in a better position due to the wind and you know under it, that I knew it was directly ahead, and up, and it either had to be this building here or this one over here[/B][/B][/B]

What POV of mine are you talking about David? Where in my post do I bring up anything about the "PrayerPersonTheory"? I am confident in my evidence based conclusion about the identity of the person represented in the image in shadow. And, I am convinced that reliable evidence is sufficient to conclude that the SecondFloor LunchroomEncounter is not a hoax, and occurred at 12:31pm/12:32pm CST, which places LeeOswald on the 2nd floor at the time.

You seem to have overlooked a portion of Officer Baker's statement, as he dismounted his motorcycle, he heard ChiefCurry over the radio say, "Get some men over on the railroad track." OfficerBaker then commented, I think everyone at that time thought these shots came from the railroad track.
Mr Belin - By "everyone" do you include you, too?
As for OfficerBaker's statement, in response to Mr Belin's question regarding where he felt the shots originated from, "No, sir. I Had it--I was in a better position due to the wind and you know under it, that I knew it was directly ahead, and up, and it either had to be this building here or this one over here". To me, I would have to conclude that OfficerBaker, unscripted, was about to say something like "No sir, I had it in mind due to better positioning", and reworded his thought slightly.

The over the radio command, whether by ChiefCurry or SheriffDecker, to "Get some men over on the railroad track", sounds to me like direction to a supervisor, and not meant to disrupt an apprehension attempt effort already in progress.