12-02-2018, 04:56 PM
Peter, do you realize that this story was also reported at the same time by...wait for it....the dreaded New York Times? Yes, the MSM. The NSA and CIA wanted their stupid hacking tools back, they were willing to pay for them, and a Russian tried to slip in some kompromat (real or fake, who knows?). The spooks backed away from the deal. Is there anything more here that I'm missing?
"Several American intelligence officials said they made clear that they did not want the Trump material from the Russian, who was suspected of having murky ties to Russian intelligence and to Eastern European cybercriminals. He claimed the information would link the president and his associates to Russia. Instead of providing the hacking tools, the Russian produced unverified and possibly fabricated information involving Mr. Trump and others, including bank records, emails and purported Russian intelligence data. The United States intelligence officials said they cut off the deal because they were wary of being entangled in a Russian operation to create discord inside the American government. They were also fearful of political fallout in Washington if they were seen to be buying scurrilous information on the president… American intelligence officials were also wary of the purported kompromat the Russian wanted to sell. They saw the information, especially the video, as the stuff of tabloid gossip pages, not intelligence collection, American officials said. But the Americans desperately wanted the hacking tools… Early this year, the Americans gave him one last chance. The Russian once again showed up with nothing more than excuses.
So the Americans offered him a choice: Start working for them and provide the names of everyone in his network or go back to Russia and do not return.
The Russian did not give it much thought. He took a sip of the cranberry juice he was nursing, picked up his bag and said, "Thank you." Then he walked out the door."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/09/us/po...trump.html
As even the Intercept story admits, buried at the end:
"The Russian told the American that he had first become aware of Russian efforts targeting U.S. political activities in late 2014 or early 2015, according to the documents reviewed by The Intercept. The Russian stated that he had no knowledge of a "master plan" to cause major disruption to U.S. election activities, but the effort was generally understood as a "green light" from Russian security officials to enlist cyber-related groups in probing and harassing activities directed at U.S. targets."
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/09/dona...ction-nsa/
I see a lot of people on the alt-left embracing the confusing narrative: The Russia story is just a fake, but even if it's not and Russia did interfere, the US deserved it because of America's interference in other countries, so who cares? Well, some of us are against oligarchy and elite corruption no matter where it is: I hate the Trump family, the Clinton family, the Bush family, Putin, the FSB, the CIA, Russian mobsters and oligarchs, American mobsters and oligarchs, Chinese, Indian, Turkish, European, whatever.
"Several American intelligence officials said they made clear that they did not want the Trump material from the Russian, who was suspected of having murky ties to Russian intelligence and to Eastern European cybercriminals. He claimed the information would link the president and his associates to Russia. Instead of providing the hacking tools, the Russian produced unverified and possibly fabricated information involving Mr. Trump and others, including bank records, emails and purported Russian intelligence data. The United States intelligence officials said they cut off the deal because they were wary of being entangled in a Russian operation to create discord inside the American government. They were also fearful of political fallout in Washington if they were seen to be buying scurrilous information on the president… American intelligence officials were also wary of the purported kompromat the Russian wanted to sell. They saw the information, especially the video, as the stuff of tabloid gossip pages, not intelligence collection, American officials said. But the Americans desperately wanted the hacking tools… Early this year, the Americans gave him one last chance. The Russian once again showed up with nothing more than excuses.
So the Americans offered him a choice: Start working for them and provide the names of everyone in his network or go back to Russia and do not return.
The Russian did not give it much thought. He took a sip of the cranberry juice he was nursing, picked up his bag and said, "Thank you." Then he walked out the door."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/09/us/po...trump.html
As even the Intercept story admits, buried at the end:
"The Russian told the American that he had first become aware of Russian efforts targeting U.S. political activities in late 2014 or early 2015, according to the documents reviewed by The Intercept. The Russian stated that he had no knowledge of a "master plan" to cause major disruption to U.S. election activities, but the effort was generally understood as a "green light" from Russian security officials to enlist cyber-related groups in probing and harassing activities directed at U.S. targets."
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/09/dona...ction-nsa/
I see a lot of people on the alt-left embracing the confusing narrative: The Russia story is just a fake, but even if it's not and Russia did interfere, the US deserved it because of America's interference in other countries, so who cares? Well, some of us are against oligarchy and elite corruption no matter where it is: I hate the Trump family, the Clinton family, the Bush family, Putin, the FSB, the CIA, Russian mobsters and oligarchs, American mobsters and oligarchs, Chinese, Indian, Turkish, European, whatever.