24-02-2018, 08:19 PM
Tracy: I carefully read your posting about the military and the JFK assassination. Here are my comments and reactions:
(1) As of 1958, the Joint Chiefs were removed from commanding their branches of the service and were given over to planning only. This was apparently a mistake. As a result, they only had an incentive to create dramatic plans that had the superficial look of significance. They followed Trump's Law. Trump's Law is "any attention is good attention." Further, the actual head of the services were waiting in line for them to get fired and move up and take their jobs. The JSC created plans but they didn't have to carry them out. Hence the plans could be RESPONSIBLE plans or IRRESPONSIBLE plans. They didn't have to carry them out. They would become somebody else's problem. In his book, General John B Medaris called the JCS "only a debating society."
(2) There were a number of books and movies which were commentaries on the 1960's political and military condition: Seven Days In May, Doctor Strangelove, On The Beach, the James Bond novels (about SMERSH), I Led Three Lives, etc. JFK probably read Seven Days In May only because he was an avid reader.
(3) The only evidence I have seen of an actual military coup threat were (1) the coup plan against FDR sponsored by the DuPont people which was actually real and (2) a threat by General John B. Medaris and Wernher von Braun against Ike due to the transfer of Army missile research to NASA (only a rumored coup).
(4) It has helped me to list in my mind to list the military people in order of their common sense and IQ. They are in order General John B. Medaris, Robert McNamara, Col. L. Fletcher Prouty, General Thomas Power, General George Marshall, General Lyman Lemnitzer, General Dwight Eisenhower, General Douglas MacArthur, General Maxwell Taylor, General Lauris Norstad, General Curtis LeMay, General Mark Clark and last was General Edwin Walker. This means that what was said by General LeMay probably didn't count for much because he was an obvious dim-wit. And Walker was ten times worse! This is what JFK meant when he questioned whether "these are the best the services can produce" [?].
(5) The only half-way sensible plan in all of your information is the suggestion by General Lemnitzer that we should have flat-out invaded Cuba and solved that problem. That would have at least been feasible, unlike Operation Northwoods or the pre-emptive nuclear first strike.
(6) Your summary of all these bizarre military/JFK facts is unique and about the best I have seen. This theme could justify a book of its own, maybe titled "Insane Nuclear Plans And Other Boondoggles." This could include Reagan's Star Wars SDI program.
(7) General Thomas Power was not a nut case. When one reads his book "Design for Survival" this becomes obvious. As Commander of the Strategic Air Command, he had his finger on the nuclear button. To explain his job to people he HAD to have a story to tell about how he would conduct a nuclear war (and win). Ergo, he came up with story of winning a nuclear war. It sounded crazy. That should not be a surprise because the whole topic of nuclear was was totally insane. That was not the fault of General Power.
Next I will list what I would add to your compendium:
(1) I don't know if you're implying that JFK was assassinated because he refused to launch the hypothetical preemptive first strike against the Soviets. I personally don't think that was the case.
(2) There was a possible military take-over involved in the JFK assassination plan. But that was the plot to kill BOTH JFK and LBJ and hence throwing the US government into chaos. That would have made the Vatican-connected and virulent anti-Communist John W. McCormack the President. The hunt for the obvious plot and it's members would have required martial law. That was the desire of the ex-Nazis, i.e. disrupt our government and GET RID OF DEMOCRACY because it was a threat to fascists and monarchists like themselves. A General MacArthur or similar officer would have made an excellent partner for worldwide fascists such as Francisco Franco of Spain and Italian fascists.
(3) All of the research about the military and JFK in the literature reflects the cover-up of the real relationship between the US military and the NATO organization. The US appointed the Supreme Allied Commander of NATO. The problem is that he was not actually the commander. It was just an empty title. The real commander, General Adolf Heusinger was actually Hitler's former right-hand man. On 11-22-1963 Heusinger commanded 400 officers and employees in the Pentagon as the real commander of NATO because he was permanent chairman of the NATO military committee.
We don't know the facts. It could have been that, in an emergency such as the JFK assassination, Heusinger as NATO commander could have taken control of some or all of US forces. We just don't know. On 11-22-1963, that could have actually take place (in whole or in part). We just don't know.
(4) When the Cuban Missile Crisis was settled, JFK agreed to remove the Jupiter missiles from Turkey and Italy. We are told (by liars) that these missiles were "obsolete". Actually, these were the only nuclear delivery system under the control of NATO and thus, Germany. The "Supreme Allied Commander" General Lauris Norstad had worked years to get these missiles under the control of NATO. And, of course, Norstad had been fired by JFK and McNamara. In the LBJ phone calls, the name of Norstad was being strongly pushed to be on the Warren Commission. He came very close.
(5) If JFK were assassinated due to military factors (which he could have been) then it was because he took nukes out of the control of NATO (and Germany) and he was flirting with a unified Germany which would be (a) neutralist (b) pacifist and disarmed and © mostly Protestant. The ex-Nazis were virulently opposed to such a possiblity.
James Lateer
(1) As of 1958, the Joint Chiefs were removed from commanding their branches of the service and were given over to planning only. This was apparently a mistake. As a result, they only had an incentive to create dramatic plans that had the superficial look of significance. They followed Trump's Law. Trump's Law is "any attention is good attention." Further, the actual head of the services were waiting in line for them to get fired and move up and take their jobs. The JSC created plans but they didn't have to carry them out. Hence the plans could be RESPONSIBLE plans or IRRESPONSIBLE plans. They didn't have to carry them out. They would become somebody else's problem. In his book, General John B Medaris called the JCS "only a debating society."
(2) There were a number of books and movies which were commentaries on the 1960's political and military condition: Seven Days In May, Doctor Strangelove, On The Beach, the James Bond novels (about SMERSH), I Led Three Lives, etc. JFK probably read Seven Days In May only because he was an avid reader.
(3) The only evidence I have seen of an actual military coup threat were (1) the coup plan against FDR sponsored by the DuPont people which was actually real and (2) a threat by General John B. Medaris and Wernher von Braun against Ike due to the transfer of Army missile research to NASA (only a rumored coup).
(4) It has helped me to list in my mind to list the military people in order of their common sense and IQ. They are in order General John B. Medaris, Robert McNamara, Col. L. Fletcher Prouty, General Thomas Power, General George Marshall, General Lyman Lemnitzer, General Dwight Eisenhower, General Douglas MacArthur, General Maxwell Taylor, General Lauris Norstad, General Curtis LeMay, General Mark Clark and last was General Edwin Walker. This means that what was said by General LeMay probably didn't count for much because he was an obvious dim-wit. And Walker was ten times worse! This is what JFK meant when he questioned whether "these are the best the services can produce" [?].
(5) The only half-way sensible plan in all of your information is the suggestion by General Lemnitzer that we should have flat-out invaded Cuba and solved that problem. That would have at least been feasible, unlike Operation Northwoods or the pre-emptive nuclear first strike.
(6) Your summary of all these bizarre military/JFK facts is unique and about the best I have seen. This theme could justify a book of its own, maybe titled "Insane Nuclear Plans And Other Boondoggles." This could include Reagan's Star Wars SDI program.
(7) General Thomas Power was not a nut case. When one reads his book "Design for Survival" this becomes obvious. As Commander of the Strategic Air Command, he had his finger on the nuclear button. To explain his job to people he HAD to have a story to tell about how he would conduct a nuclear war (and win). Ergo, he came up with story of winning a nuclear war. It sounded crazy. That should not be a surprise because the whole topic of nuclear was was totally insane. That was not the fault of General Power.
Next I will list what I would add to your compendium:
(1) I don't know if you're implying that JFK was assassinated because he refused to launch the hypothetical preemptive first strike against the Soviets. I personally don't think that was the case.
(2) There was a possible military take-over involved in the JFK assassination plan. But that was the plot to kill BOTH JFK and LBJ and hence throwing the US government into chaos. That would have made the Vatican-connected and virulent anti-Communist John W. McCormack the President. The hunt for the obvious plot and it's members would have required martial law. That was the desire of the ex-Nazis, i.e. disrupt our government and GET RID OF DEMOCRACY because it was a threat to fascists and monarchists like themselves. A General MacArthur or similar officer would have made an excellent partner for worldwide fascists such as Francisco Franco of Spain and Italian fascists.
(3) All of the research about the military and JFK in the literature reflects the cover-up of the real relationship between the US military and the NATO organization. The US appointed the Supreme Allied Commander of NATO. The problem is that he was not actually the commander. It was just an empty title. The real commander, General Adolf Heusinger was actually Hitler's former right-hand man. On 11-22-1963 Heusinger commanded 400 officers and employees in the Pentagon as the real commander of NATO because he was permanent chairman of the NATO military committee.
We don't know the facts. It could have been that, in an emergency such as the JFK assassination, Heusinger as NATO commander could have taken control of some or all of US forces. We just don't know. On 11-22-1963, that could have actually take place (in whole or in part). We just don't know.
(4) When the Cuban Missile Crisis was settled, JFK agreed to remove the Jupiter missiles from Turkey and Italy. We are told (by liars) that these missiles were "obsolete". Actually, these were the only nuclear delivery system under the control of NATO and thus, Germany. The "Supreme Allied Commander" General Lauris Norstad had worked years to get these missiles under the control of NATO. And, of course, Norstad had been fired by JFK and McNamara. In the LBJ phone calls, the name of Norstad was being strongly pushed to be on the Warren Commission. He came very close.
(5) If JFK were assassinated due to military factors (which he could have been) then it was because he took nukes out of the control of NATO (and Germany) and he was flirting with a unified Germany which would be (a) neutralist (b) pacifist and disarmed and © mostly Protestant. The ex-Nazis were virulently opposed to such a possiblity.
James Lateer