24-10-2018, 05:30 PM
From The Rise Of The Fourth Reich by Jim Marrs
"P 224
When Garrison attempted to subpoena the testimony of their employ-
KENNEDY ARD THE NAZIS P 225
-ees, NASA refused to provide them, citing reasons of national security. Amazingly enough, accused assassin Oswald told New Orleans garage owner Adrian Alba that he expected to soon work at a New Orleans plant of NASA. Why Oswald, who had tried to defect to Russia and voiced hostility toward the USA and its policies, thought he could go to work for the nation's leading aerospace agency was never explained.
According to the Torbitt document, this complex matrix of govern*ment agents, NASA employees, and Nazis was managed by Louis Mor*timer Bloomfieid of Montreal, Canada. According to Canadian newspaper accounts, Bloomfield was an ardent Zionist, an attorney, businessman, and philanthropist who had worked for the OSS during World War II and for the fledgling CIA. Torbitt stated Bloomfield was a longtime friend and confidant of J. Edgar Hoover and had been Hoover's contract supervisor of Division Five since his days in the OSS before World War II. Torbitt said Bloomfieid "was the coordinator of all activities, responsible only to Hoover and Johnson in carrying out the plans for John Kennedy's assassination."
In 1967, New Orleans DA Jim Garrison charged Clay Shaw, a former OSS officer and founder of the City's International Trade Mart, with con*spiracy to assassinate the president. According to several separate sourcesincluding Garrison's files and an investigation by the U.S. Labor Partythe International Trade Mart in New Orleans was a subsidiary of a shadowy entity known as the Centro Mondiale Commerciale (CMC) or World Trade Center, which was founded by Bloomfield in Montreal in the late 1950s, then moved to Rome in 1961.
The Trade Mart was con*nected with CMC through yet another shadowy firm named Permindex PERManent INDustrial EXpositions), also in the business of interna*tional expositions. According to Torbitt, Bloomfleld held half of the shares of Permindex and was in total command of its Operation in Europe and Africa as well as the North and South American continents. (In the 1962 edition of Who's Who in the South and Southwest, Shaw gave bio*graphical information stating that he was on the board of directors of Permindex. However, in the 1963-64 edition, the reference to Permindex was dropped.)
P 226 THE RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH
In the late 1960s, both Permindex and its parent company, Centro Mondiale Commerciale, came under intense scrutiny by the Italian media. lt was discovered that Prince Gutierrez di Spadaforo was on board of CMC. The prince was a wealthy aristocrat who had been und secretary of agriculture under the dictator Benito Mussolini, and whos daughter-in-law was related to Nazi minister of finance Hjalmar Schacht. Carlo D'Amelio, an attorney for the former Italian royal family; and Ferenc Nagy, former premier of Hungary and a leading anticommunist. Italian media reported that Nagy was president of Permindex, and board chairman and major stockholder was Louis Mortimer Bloomfield the powerful Montreal lawyer who represented the Bronfman family well as serving U.S. intelligence services. Reportedly, Bioomfield established Permindex in 1958 as part of the creation of worldwide trade centers connected with CMC.
According to a special investigation by reporters David Goldman Jeffrey Steinberg in their 1981 book Dope, Inc.: Britain's Opium War Against the U. S., Bloomfield was recruited into the British Special Operations Executive (SOE) in 1938, during the war was given rank within U.S. Army, and eventually became part of the OSS intelligence system including the FBI's Division Five, where he became quite close with Edgar Hoover.
Whatever the truth behind Centro Mondiale Commerciale and companion company Permindex, and their connection to Kennedy's assassination, the Italian government saw fit to expel both firms in 1962 for subversive activities identical to those in the much-publicized Propaganda-2 (P-2) Masonic Lodge scandal of the Reagan years.
Today it is clear that Clay Shaw was tightly connected to the CIA intelligence work despite his denials at the time of Garrison's investigation. lt is interesting to note that while serving in the U.S. Army during World War II, Shaw worked as aide-de-camp to General Charles Thrasher and as a liaison officer to the headquarters of Winston Churchill. [Thrasher's job was recruiting Nazi's--jl].
At the time of his arrest in New Orleans by Garrison, Shaw's personal address book was taken. lt revealed the names and contact inform of important Europeans, many of them pro-Nazi royalty or Bilderberg members."
[end of quotation from Jim Marrs]
I get a lot of words put in my mouth. I don't think I ever said that there were Italians working as front men in CMC to cover up the Nazi involvement. If I said it, it would be a mistake. Since CMC was at that time in Italy, it would automatically involve some Italians in some things. As to what things, I have not real opinion.
As can be seen from the above Jim Marrs quotation, the CMC organization was part of a much larger scope than just Italy. It was started outside of Italy and was booted out of Italy in 1962 BY THE ITALIAN GOVERNMENT according to Marrs.
(I have read elsewhere that it went from Italy to Switzerland in 1962 and thence to South Africa at a subsequent time).
I am very grateful to anyone who replies to my postings because this helps my analysis.
But what is the point being made by Mr. Thorne and Mr. Kaiser? Is this a suggestion that JFK was not killed by the worldwide Nazi network, but rather that JFK was killed by a group of Italians all by themselves who populated the Centro Mondiale Commerciale?
By including the above material on CMC in his book about the worldwide Nazi network, Mr. Marrs appears to believe that CMC was connected to the worldwide Nazis. You have the Schacht connection which could imply Nazi money. That's not clear. But the Bloomfield role seems to connect this to Hoover, Dulles, and the US intelligence community. The CIA was very, very active in Italy at this time as you can read about in the memoirs of former CIA director William Colby.
I am not denying that there were Italians who were part of CMC. According to EIR, the CMC was booted out of Italy in 1962 for attempting to re-establish a monarchy in Italy.
I was asked to provide a citation for my opinions and I posted the article by Michael Leibig. But then that's not enough because Leibig himself does not have citations. I have seen several times on this site where people just dismiss a book or a quotation by demanding more citations or criticizing one citation out of hundreds of citations in a book. I'm not saying that's in bad faith. But I would prefer to see a criticism or dispute of what the issue is rather than just a demand for more and more citations.
Here, I will just plain come out and ask of Mr. Thorne and Mr. Kaiser--do you think that JFK was murdered by the worldwide Nazi network which might include Skorzeny, Bormann and elements of NATO and/or the West German Government? Or do you think it more likely that a group of Italians involved in Centro Mondiale Commerciale planned and arranged the JFK murder working alone or through Gladio?
We now have myself (in The Three Barons) and Ralph Ganis (in The Skorzeny Papers) having explained in hundreds of pages and hundreds of notes exactly how the Nazis carried out the murder of JFK.
I am just politely asking--are you putting this book on the CMC as having a better explanation of the JFK assassination than The Three Barons or The Skorzeny Papers? (And we also have to mention the long-standing theories of Mae Brussell).
What's the theory of you guys? I would really, really like to know your take on this. Help us (JFK researchers) poop or get off the pot!!!!!!
James Lateer
"P 224
When Garrison attempted to subpoena the testimony of their employ-
KENNEDY ARD THE NAZIS P 225
-ees, NASA refused to provide them, citing reasons of national security. Amazingly enough, accused assassin Oswald told New Orleans garage owner Adrian Alba that he expected to soon work at a New Orleans plant of NASA. Why Oswald, who had tried to defect to Russia and voiced hostility toward the USA and its policies, thought he could go to work for the nation's leading aerospace agency was never explained.
According to the Torbitt document, this complex matrix of govern*ment agents, NASA employees, and Nazis was managed by Louis Mor*timer Bloomfieid of Montreal, Canada. According to Canadian newspaper accounts, Bloomfield was an ardent Zionist, an attorney, businessman, and philanthropist who had worked for the OSS during World War II and for the fledgling CIA. Torbitt stated Bloomfield was a longtime friend and confidant of J. Edgar Hoover and had been Hoover's contract supervisor of Division Five since his days in the OSS before World War II. Torbitt said Bloomfieid "was the coordinator of all activities, responsible only to Hoover and Johnson in carrying out the plans for John Kennedy's assassination."
In 1967, New Orleans DA Jim Garrison charged Clay Shaw, a former OSS officer and founder of the City's International Trade Mart, with con*spiracy to assassinate the president. According to several separate sourcesincluding Garrison's files and an investigation by the U.S. Labor Partythe International Trade Mart in New Orleans was a subsidiary of a shadowy entity known as the Centro Mondiale Commerciale (CMC) or World Trade Center, which was founded by Bloomfield in Montreal in the late 1950s, then moved to Rome in 1961.
The Trade Mart was con*nected with CMC through yet another shadowy firm named Permindex PERManent INDustrial EXpositions), also in the business of interna*tional expositions. According to Torbitt, Bloomfleld held half of the shares of Permindex and was in total command of its Operation in Europe and Africa as well as the North and South American continents. (In the 1962 edition of Who's Who in the South and Southwest, Shaw gave bio*graphical information stating that he was on the board of directors of Permindex. However, in the 1963-64 edition, the reference to Permindex was dropped.)
P 226 THE RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH
In the late 1960s, both Permindex and its parent company, Centro Mondiale Commerciale, came under intense scrutiny by the Italian media. lt was discovered that Prince Gutierrez di Spadaforo was on board of CMC. The prince was a wealthy aristocrat who had been und secretary of agriculture under the dictator Benito Mussolini, and whos daughter-in-law was related to Nazi minister of finance Hjalmar Schacht. Carlo D'Amelio, an attorney for the former Italian royal family; and Ferenc Nagy, former premier of Hungary and a leading anticommunist. Italian media reported that Nagy was president of Permindex, and board chairman and major stockholder was Louis Mortimer Bloomfield the powerful Montreal lawyer who represented the Bronfman family well as serving U.S. intelligence services. Reportedly, Bioomfield established Permindex in 1958 as part of the creation of worldwide trade centers connected with CMC.
According to a special investigation by reporters David Goldman Jeffrey Steinberg in their 1981 book Dope, Inc.: Britain's Opium War Against the U. S., Bloomfield was recruited into the British Special Operations Executive (SOE) in 1938, during the war was given rank within U.S. Army, and eventually became part of the OSS intelligence system including the FBI's Division Five, where he became quite close with Edgar Hoover.
Whatever the truth behind Centro Mondiale Commerciale and companion company Permindex, and their connection to Kennedy's assassination, the Italian government saw fit to expel both firms in 1962 for subversive activities identical to those in the much-publicized Propaganda-2 (P-2) Masonic Lodge scandal of the Reagan years.
Today it is clear that Clay Shaw was tightly connected to the CIA intelligence work despite his denials at the time of Garrison's investigation. lt is interesting to note that while serving in the U.S. Army during World War II, Shaw worked as aide-de-camp to General Charles Thrasher and as a liaison officer to the headquarters of Winston Churchill. [Thrasher's job was recruiting Nazi's--jl].
At the time of his arrest in New Orleans by Garrison, Shaw's personal address book was taken. lt revealed the names and contact inform of important Europeans, many of them pro-Nazi royalty or Bilderberg members."
[end of quotation from Jim Marrs]
I get a lot of words put in my mouth. I don't think I ever said that there were Italians working as front men in CMC to cover up the Nazi involvement. If I said it, it would be a mistake. Since CMC was at that time in Italy, it would automatically involve some Italians in some things. As to what things, I have not real opinion.
As can be seen from the above Jim Marrs quotation, the CMC organization was part of a much larger scope than just Italy. It was started outside of Italy and was booted out of Italy in 1962 BY THE ITALIAN GOVERNMENT according to Marrs.
(I have read elsewhere that it went from Italy to Switzerland in 1962 and thence to South Africa at a subsequent time).
I am very grateful to anyone who replies to my postings because this helps my analysis.
But what is the point being made by Mr. Thorne and Mr. Kaiser? Is this a suggestion that JFK was not killed by the worldwide Nazi network, but rather that JFK was killed by a group of Italians all by themselves who populated the Centro Mondiale Commerciale?
By including the above material on CMC in his book about the worldwide Nazi network, Mr. Marrs appears to believe that CMC was connected to the worldwide Nazis. You have the Schacht connection which could imply Nazi money. That's not clear. But the Bloomfield role seems to connect this to Hoover, Dulles, and the US intelligence community. The CIA was very, very active in Italy at this time as you can read about in the memoirs of former CIA director William Colby.
I am not denying that there were Italians who were part of CMC. According to EIR, the CMC was booted out of Italy in 1962 for attempting to re-establish a monarchy in Italy.
I was asked to provide a citation for my opinions and I posted the article by Michael Leibig. But then that's not enough because Leibig himself does not have citations. I have seen several times on this site where people just dismiss a book or a quotation by demanding more citations or criticizing one citation out of hundreds of citations in a book. I'm not saying that's in bad faith. But I would prefer to see a criticism or dispute of what the issue is rather than just a demand for more and more citations.
Here, I will just plain come out and ask of Mr. Thorne and Mr. Kaiser--do you think that JFK was murdered by the worldwide Nazi network which might include Skorzeny, Bormann and elements of NATO and/or the West German Government? Or do you think it more likely that a group of Italians involved in Centro Mondiale Commerciale planned and arranged the JFK murder working alone or through Gladio?
We now have myself (in The Three Barons) and Ralph Ganis (in The Skorzeny Papers) having explained in hundreds of pages and hundreds of notes exactly how the Nazis carried out the murder of JFK.
I am just politely asking--are you putting this book on the CMC as having a better explanation of the JFK assassination than The Three Barons or The Skorzeny Papers? (And we also have to mention the long-standing theories of Mae Brussell).
What's the theory of you guys? I would really, really like to know your take on this. Help us (JFK researchers) poop or get off the pot!!!!!!
James Lateer