19-11-2018, 06:47 PM
I agree about the Butler evidence... very strange... like that BLUE COAT he claims was over Tippit... ???
Couple things to follow up upon...
Mentzel seems to have been back in service after his lunch at 1:04 and is the
LAST TRANSMISSION on Ch 1 at 1:04. We do not get another Ch 1 transmission
until 1:07... The exact time period the actual Tippit murder took place...
[TABLE="width: 454"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:04[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]91 (Ptm. W.D. Mentzel and Ptm. J.W. Courson)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"]91 clear.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:04 Count[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:07[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"]91 clear. 1:07.[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
their first call after the JFK shooting
[TABLE="width: 626"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:11[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 317, bgcolor: transparent"]91 (Ptm. W.D. Mentzel and Ptm. J.W. Courson)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 437, bgcolor: transparent"]817 West Davis?[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
817 W Davis is 1 mile east of the Theater... in the heart of the 91 patrol district...
Mentzel responds to this call with 222 also en route... I have to assume that "222" is the call sign fro patrol area 22 since there are no patrol areas with 3 numbers
[TABLE="width: 454"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:11[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"]222[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:11[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]222 (Ptm. V.R. Nolan)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"]En route.[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
What I am most confused by then, is the communication flow to and from Tippit
[TABLE="width: 454"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]78[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]78 (Ptm. J.D. Tippit)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]78[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]You are in the Oak Cliff area, are you not?[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]78 (Ptm. J.D. Tippit)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]Lancaster and Eighth.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]You will be at large for any emergency that comes in.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]78 (Ptm. J.D. Tippit)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]10-4.[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="width: 454"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:55[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"]78, location?[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="width: 454"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:55[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl71, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"]78, location?[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:16[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]78[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
At 1:11, when a call comes in from 817 W Davis... the most logical patrol for Murray Jackson
to dispatch would be TIPPIT or NELSON... 78 or 87.
So why is the first call to the normal Oak Cliff Patrol?
Why didn't #91 go to Elm/Houston?
Why isn't 222 at Elm/Houston?
Why send 87 from Elm/Houston to 4340 W Davis when 91, 222, and a host of others where right there?
Do you think they just shifted the timing of these calls? I mean, if POSTAL calls in at 1:43... it takes a hurried shooter 35 minutes to go 1/2 mile... ???
That seems like a bitt much, no?
Couple things to follow up upon...
Mentzel seems to have been back in service after his lunch at 1:04 and is the
LAST TRANSMISSION on Ch 1 at 1:04. We do not get another Ch 1 transmission
until 1:07... The exact time period the actual Tippit murder took place...
[TABLE="width: 454"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:04[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]91 (Ptm. W.D. Mentzel and Ptm. J.W. Courson)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"]91 clear.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:04 Count[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:07[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"]91 clear. 1:07.[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
their first call after the JFK shooting
[TABLE="width: 626"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:11[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 317, bgcolor: transparent"]91 (Ptm. W.D. Mentzel and Ptm. J.W. Courson)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 437, bgcolor: transparent"]817 West Davis?[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
817 W Davis is 1 mile east of the Theater... in the heart of the 91 patrol district...
Mentzel responds to this call with 222 also en route... I have to assume that "222" is the call sign fro patrol area 22 since there are no patrol areas with 3 numbers
[TABLE="width: 454"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:11[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"]222[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:11[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]222 (Ptm. V.R. Nolan)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"]En route.[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
What I am most confused by then, is the communication flow to and from Tippit
[TABLE="width: 454"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]78[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]78 (Ptm. J.D. Tippit)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]78[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]You are in the Oak Cliff area, are you not?[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]78 (Ptm. J.D. Tippit)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]Lancaster and Eighth.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]You will be at large for any emergency that comes in.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]78 (Ptm. J.D. Tippit)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]10-4.[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="width: 454"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:55[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"]78, location?[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="width: 454"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:55[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl71, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"]78, location?[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:16[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]78[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
At 1:11, when a call comes in from 817 W Davis... the most logical patrol for Murray Jackson
to dispatch would be TIPPIT or NELSON... 78 or 87.
So why is the first call to the normal Oak Cliff Patrol?
Why didn't #91 go to Elm/Houston?
Why isn't 222 at Elm/Houston?
Why send 87 from Elm/Houston to 4340 W Davis when 91, 222, and a host of others where right there?
Do you think they just shifted the timing of these calls? I mean, if POSTAL calls in at 1:43... it takes a hurried shooter 35 minutes to go 1/2 mile... ???
That seems like a bitt much, no?
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter

