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The Tippit Case in the New Millenium
Milo Reech Wrote:Thanks, I'm assuming this is the same at the c-span website:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?454599-1/c...ort-part-3

The voice making the citizen call belonged to Bowley whose presence was anathema to WC (Warren Commission) and therefore anathema to WC (Walter Cronkite) by dint of servile regurgitation, a feeble dupe who reached more wrong conclusions in the course of this documentary than seems humanly possible.


I believe that at least 2 different people used the police radio at 10th/Patton.... and again.. these times MUST be wrong...

The first call - despite what the Ambulance Driver says about the police car and radio - was BOWLEY (from his affidavit):
A man was trying to use the radio in the squad car but stated he didn't know how to operate it. I know how and took the radio from him. I said, "Hello, operator. A police officer has been shot here." The dispatcher asked for the location. I found out the location and told the dispatcher what it was.

1:16
CITIZEN: Hello, police operator?
DIS: Go ahead. Go ahead, citizen using the police radio.
CITIZEN: There's been a shooting out here.
DIS: Where's it at?
DIS: The citizen using the police radio...
CITIZEN: Tenth Street.
DIS: What location on Tenth Street?
CITIZEN: Between Marsaliis and Beckley. It's a police officer. Somebody shot him. What--what's... 404 Tenth Street.

The mention of the accent is in these transcripts - yet with Benavides there the entire time... why would he get on the radio to say the same exact thing from just minutes before? [size=12][size=12]Copied and Updated by Russ Shearer
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1:19
CITIZEN: Hello, hello, hello. (Slight Mexican accent?)
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CITIZEN: Pardon, from out here on Tenth Street. 500 [size=12]block. This officer just shot. I think he's [size=12]dead.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
DIS: 10-4. We have that information. The citizen [size=12]using the radio: Remain off the radio now[/SIZE]


I have to assume you mean a different time that 11:05 & 11:32. this is the only Ch.1 transmission of "510 E. Jefferson"

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[TD]Attention. Signal 19, police officer, 510 E. Jefferson.
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So I guess I need you to point out to what you are referring...






There is an item of interest worth examining. Bowley's voice enters around 11:05 ("Hello, police operator?") followed by the shooting information and disclosure of the correct address. At 11:32 a different voice cuts in with a wrong address ("a police officer, 510 E. Jefferson"). For some reason the dispacher, ignoring the correct address given by Bowley, immediately broadcast the wrong one ("Attention. Signal 19, police officer, 510 E. Jefferson.").

Sawyer A omits the intrusive voice altogether which produces the absurdity of the dispatcher broadcasting an address he did not receive (p.395). Ditto the transcript at McAdams' site (http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes2.htm). CE 1974 attributes the second address to the Citizen who gave the correct address a few seconds previously (p.53), which is ridiculous, but CE 705 gets it right (p.408): '(Some other unknown voice came in with "a police officer, 510 E. Jefferson").'

Whose voice is it? Move ahead to 13:00 and listen to Callaway. I think we have a match.

DJ, many questions I cannot answer, but one is easy.

Quote:Mentzel responds to this call with 222 also en route... I have to assume that "222" is the call sign fro patrol area 22 since there are no patrol areas with 3 numbers
222 was assigned to V.R. Nolan of the Traffic Division. Units 210 through 243 were reserved for accident supervisors & investigators.

As to the rest, yes, it is a bit much, but maybe not so much if a complete accurate transcript were available. Among the fragments we have the 510 E. Jefferson address is curious, located between Johnny Reynolds used car lot and the library. Did Callaway (or someone else) shove Bowley aside and blurt the misdirection (if so, why?), or is it an artifact brought about by tampering with or otherwise mis-processing the dictabelts?


We really must remember that it was the FOX who was asked to write up the account of his plundering the chicken coop...

It appears to me that they moved everything up 10 minutes.. there are numerous splices and numerous timeframes that are completely missing...

And to wind up at 1:45pm with the announcement that the suspect is running NORTH ON JEFFERSON when Postal had just called at 1:44

The "Running North" is line 1355 while "Texas Theater" is 1377.

RC NELSON is sent from Elm/Houston 7 miles to 4340 W Davis. He's there - according to these times - from 1:26 until 1:44 when he asks dispatch where the suspect in Oak Cliff was....

There was never a time the man ran NORTH on PATTON... unless that's a 2nd man... and/or we are missing conversation in that TAPE SPLICE which would suggest someone said something about a man on Patton (how else would DISPATCH know?)

Either that or Dispatcher Murray Jackson is trying to keep Nelson away from anything TIPPIT related...



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[TD="class: xl65, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"](Tape splice)
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[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]87 (Ptm. R.C. Nelson)
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[TD="class: xl65, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"]87. What was the last location anybody had on that suspect out here in Oak Cliff?
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[TD="class: xl65, width: 336, bgcolor: transparent"]Running north on Patton.
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[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]79 (Ptm. B.N. Arglin)
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[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]79 (Ptm. B.N. Arglin)
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[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]I'm here at 19's location. Any message for him?
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[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher
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[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]10-4. We have information that a suspect just went in the Texas Theater on West Jefferson.
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[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:44
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[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]79 (Ptm. B.N. Arglin)
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[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]10-4.
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[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]Dispatcher
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[TD="class: xl68, width: 336, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]Supposed to be hiding in the balcony.
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[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]1:44
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[TD="class: xl67, width: 80, bgcolor: transparent"]12:40
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[TD="class: xl65, width: 317, bgcolor: transparent"]269 (Ptm. L.E. Beilharz)
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[TD="class: xl68, width: 437, bgcolor: transparent"]Will you check with my supervisor and see what he wants me to (splice in tape) go? I'm clear my second assignment.
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12:55
648. DIS: 211 car 2, call operator 1 at Parkland, car 2.
[size=12](Tape spliced and duplicated)

649. 211/2: 10-4.
1:04

9 minutes

1:12
840. DIS: Signal 9, manager's office, 4916 Live Oak.
(Tape spliced)
841. 212: 212.
1:15
3 minutes


[size=12][size=12][size=12][size=12]1:321164. DIS: West in the alley between Jefferson and Tenth.
(Tape splice)
1165. 85: 10-4.

1:33
1 min


1:44
1353. DIS: 10-4.
(Tape splice)
1354. 87: 87. What was the last location anybody had on that suspect out in here in Oak Cliff.
1355. DIS: Running north on Patton.
1:46
1-2 mins














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