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Clay Shaw
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Just plowing my way through Man of a Million Fragments by Carpenter.

As I expected, I struck gold in the pages of MMF by Carpenter. At page 307, Carpenter mentions that the FBI was trying to spy on the German Consulate in 1954 with the help of Shaw's staff at the International Trade Mart, but backed off over the issue of Shaw's homosexuality.

As mentioned before on DPF, author Carpenter discusses Shaw's military service with General Charles O Thrasher, but omits mention of Thrasher's recruitment of the Nazi scientists which involved Major Clay Shaw in 1944-1946. All this was documented in the books about Operation Paperclip by Annie Jacobsen, Tom Bower and others.

Because of this omission, one has to question the entire treatment of this issue by Carpenter (sadly). But as usual in books like this, Carpenter throws in endless detail and (sure as shooting) he spills the beans on the involvement of Shaw and the German Government.

At page 307, he mentions this above factoid about the FBI and the German Consolate. According to the following link, the German Consulate was located in Shaw's International Trade Center at room 103 in 1952.

http://recht.nrw.de/lmi/owa/br_mbl_show_...52&p_nr=35

Amazingly, author Carpenter refuses to read between the lines of his own work in any matter or means whatever. So I will read between the lines for him. He reports that General Thrasher was in charge of an area of occupation in France the covered one-fifth of that entire nation. But this was in northeastern France around the Marne area. Thus, Thrasher's area would not have covered the area of southern Germany that was where Shaw would have met with Nazis like Wernher von Braun. Further, since Thrasher was in charge of such a large area, he would not have been able to personally meet with and recruit the Von Braun team. This would mean that Shaw was likely personally running the Thrasher operation in recruiting these Nazis.

Based on Carpenter's portrayal of Shaw, Shaw was a "savant" in that he was functioning way, way above his background and upbringing in Louisiana. He went to New York and was a successful playwright around age 23. But he was only a high-school graduate, so he was precocious and likely rose quickly in the military ranks due to his uncanny and unaccountable intelligence and social skills. He would have apparently been capable of almost any achievement including recruiting the likes of Von Braun.

As I mentioned in The Three Barons, there is some evidence that Shaw was involved with the I G Farben German chemical company in their famous lawsuit which also involved JFK. The East German government was also suing Wernher von Braun over the Mittlebau/Dora concentration camp which was run by IG Farben during WWII. Von Braun gave testimony in this case at the German Consulate in NOLA in 1967.

Reading between the lines again, it looks like when Shaw returned to New Orleans, he was immediately set up "in business" by the CIA in establishing the International Trade Mart in New Orleans. Although the ITM was allegedly patterned after the Chicago Merchandise Mart, it was really nothing like that. It was obviously designed as a "front" for Shaw and his friends like Dr. Alton Ochsner (son of German immigrants) to co-ordinate with the escaped Nazis in South America.

It looks more and more like the fugitive Nazis were essentially running the US government to a large extent through Lyndon Johnson and his Space Committee in Congress and their absolute dominance of the U.S. missile program. According to Executive Intelligence review, Eisenhower narrowly escaped an actual military coup by Von Braun and General John B. Medaris (himself a genius). It also looks like that JFK launched the "moon race" as a sop to the Nazi scientists and a full-employment program for them (and probably out of a fear of them, like Ike had experienced).

Shaw often traveled to South America and according to Carpenter, was rumored to have met with Eva Peron there. All this was at the same time when ex-Gestapo officers like Horst Kopkow and Heinrich Muller were consulting with US and UK intelligence and designing the US National Security State from 1947 to 1953 and beyond based on their experience in designing the Gestapo for Hitler.

Also according to Carpenter, the Cuban consulate was kept open by anti-Castro people after Castro took over. That would have to be a CIA-supported situation. That consulate was also in Shaw's International Trade Mart. New Orleans was conveniently situated between Fort Bliss near El Paso and the Huntsville, Alabama Rocket facility, both centers of ex-Nazi scientific research. LBJ planned JFK's visit to Dallas in El Paso in June, 1963. On the internet, there is a photo of what appears to be Lady Bird Johnson with the German NOLA Consul and staff in 1963.

Shaw's travels also included Madrid, Spain and dovetailed perfectly with the picture painted of the Otto Skorzeny activities which author Ralph Ganis conclusively links to the JFK Assassination in The Skorzeny Papers. Spanish Fascist dictator Francisco Franco paid for the plaza surrounding the NOLA International Trade Mart, even up until 1978.

And Carpenter documents the connection between Shaw and the Permindex/Centro Mondo Commercialle in Rome which was a CIA covert operation.

The German Consulate in NOLA had with it an Information Officer, but author Carpenter does not report anything about its activities. The countries represented at the NOLA Trade Mart were mostly the fascist-connected countries of the EEU of that time like Italy, France, Germany and the South American countries like Argentina which were populated by the ex-Nazis.

I will have more complete analysis of the Carpenter book as I finish reading it. But it is obviously a gold-mine of genuine original research by Carpenter, and I would recommend it (regardless of Carpenter's blind eye towards the JFK conspiracy).

More to come.

James Lateer
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