25-10-2009, 10:58 AM
(This post was last modified: 25-10-2009, 11:00 AM by David Guyatt.)
[quote=Steve Franklin]
[quote]Keep in mind that it was "well known" during the Middle Ages that the world was flat. What is well known is commonly whatever nonsense is generally accepted by specialist communities whose average IQ is not much higher than the general population. These are mainly characters who have sat in a classroom and copied whatever nonsense the professor has written on the blackboard, most of which is "well known."
[COLOR="Red"]Well, I suppose I can reply by saying that I wasn't around in the middle ages and, for me, the world has always been round. The fundamental choke on knowledge you speak of however, was managed - under penalty of torture and death - by the movers and shakers running the Catholic Church, who hindered every forward advance in knowledge in order to keep their power franchise ticking along. But this period also produced some of the greatest thinkers of history who managed a great leap forward in the understanding of mankind and progressed civilization forward, despite these dangerous restrictions.
But back to the point. I don't know about you Steve, but I was around in the days of George Adamski, was actively involved in investigating the UFO phenomenon for the highly respected Tuscon based APRO, edited a UK UFO magazine for awhile, and personally knew most of the movers and shakers in the UK - and elsewhere too. Adamski was a fake. And a highly obvious one.[/COLOR]
As for whether this thing was presented as a UFO or not, it is shown immediately next to a classic photo of a saucer. I would be interested in knowing where the photo in question came from--what was its chain of possession?
[COLOR="red"]Which is rather the point I'm trying to make. Before jumping to conclusions it is wiser to thoroughly investigate what the "object" was. On the net, this particular "sighting" is being upped by many in the UFO community as a UFO.
I feel rather strongly that this should be actively combatted (at this stage anyway), if only because I smell a distant whiff of psyops in action. I cannot help but wonder if this is a designedly deflective activity. The pressure building about US/Israeli complicity in 911 is increasing by the day. The media can, if they wish to, use this UFO story to further discredit genuine and continuing investigation into the deep events of 911 and this will consequently have a considerable impact amongst the great unwashed public.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
[quote]Keep in mind that it was "well known" during the Middle Ages that the world was flat. What is well known is commonly whatever nonsense is generally accepted by specialist communities whose average IQ is not much higher than the general population. These are mainly characters who have sat in a classroom and copied whatever nonsense the professor has written on the blackboard, most of which is "well known."
[COLOR="Red"]Well, I suppose I can reply by saying that I wasn't around in the middle ages and, for me, the world has always been round. The fundamental choke on knowledge you speak of however, was managed - under penalty of torture and death - by the movers and shakers running the Catholic Church, who hindered every forward advance in knowledge in order to keep their power franchise ticking along. But this period also produced some of the greatest thinkers of history who managed a great leap forward in the understanding of mankind and progressed civilization forward, despite these dangerous restrictions.
But back to the point. I don't know about you Steve, but I was around in the days of George Adamski, was actively involved in investigating the UFO phenomenon for the highly respected Tuscon based APRO, edited a UK UFO magazine for awhile, and personally knew most of the movers and shakers in the UK - and elsewhere too. Adamski was a fake. And a highly obvious one.[/COLOR]
As for whether this thing was presented as a UFO or not, it is shown immediately next to a classic photo of a saucer. I would be interested in knowing where the photo in question came from--what was its chain of possession?
[COLOR="red"]Which is rather the point I'm trying to make. Before jumping to conclusions it is wiser to thoroughly investigate what the "object" was. On the net, this particular "sighting" is being upped by many in the UFO community as a UFO.
I feel rather strongly that this should be actively combatted (at this stage anyway), if only because I smell a distant whiff of psyops in action. I cannot help but wonder if this is a designedly deflective activity. The pressure building about US/Israeli complicity in 911 is increasing by the day. The media can, if they wish to, use this UFO story to further discredit genuine and continuing investigation into the deep events of 911 and this will consequently have a considerable impact amongst the great unwashed public.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14