11-06-2024, 07:07 PM
As usual DiEugenio comes up on the wrong side of an important research topic:
" No serious researcher that I have ever met took the Collins Piper book seriously. That is just pure hogwash. "
DiEugenio uses cheap tricks like trying to get rid of Piper at the name-calling level and manipulating his usual sycophants...After watching Dirty Jim for decades I have realized that he offers a dumbed-down product on subjects he doesn't want to admit, like he does here with Piper, and then he offers a very high quality product on subjects he wants you to believe...Jim's sycophants assume that since his good material is superb that they can just take his word on it with the people he dismisses...I have watched Jim destroy a lot of good research over the years along with its sources...
" At best, it was so strained it was kind of a joke. At worst it was pernicious. Someone once told me that he overheard the late author say, "If I could just have 20 minutes with Jim DiEugenio!" Nope. If I spent like seven hours reading your book and found it completely unconvincing, how is 20 minutes going to change that? "
All Jim is doing here is offering his usual excuse-making for not debating a person who he knew was going to disprove him...He does it all the time...The reason Jim is dirty is because a lot of his research effort consists of aimed censorship and personal destruction rather than honest debate and consideration of facts...Jim does the same thing with me...Jim probably never even read 'Final Judgment' (whose 500 pages would take much more than 7 hours to read)...DiEugenio is a political weasel and his whole attitude towards Piper is based on not losing clicks...
" When I say that book was pernicious, I mean it in two ways. First, because it is so weak, it makes JFK critics look really silly and marginal. Secondly, because of that, it makes us targets. When Collins Piper was speaking out here in the LA area before he passed on, the LA Times used that to do a front page story ridiculing him and JFK researchers at the same time. Even my graduate studies professor mentioned it to me. "
Piper is literally the best source on CIA, Israel, and the Intelligence scenario in the Mediterranean...Jim covers Piper's dense coverage of this complicated, inter-tied Intelligence network with the words "silly and marginal"...He then credits media critics whom he admits are just making excuses...DiEugenio fails to mention that the media refers to himself exactly the same way as he quotes them referring to Piper...The above is just shallow excuse-making designed to make Jim's automatic followers not realize that he is skipping the entirety of Piper's material - which is quite fascinating and quite deadly accurate...Jim is offering name-calling, basically, and insulting your intelligence...Jim is dirty and when he can't get someone by their material he goes after them with the cheap stuff above...It seems that Jim credits the LA Times when they ridicule Piper and joins them in using that ridicule to avoid his facts...Otherwise Jim normally excoriates the LA Times and calls them uncredible (except when he's using them to cut down a good researcher he doesn't want to put any skin in the game over politically)...
" Go all the way back to the beginning with say Meagher and Garrison, all the way down to this day, with all the people we featured in JFK Revisited. Show me one prominent, respected writer/researcher who ever advocated that the Mossad killed Kennedy.
(Sound of crickets in the night.) "
The cheap trick Jim is using here is he's trying to conflate Piper's claim that Israel planned and carried out the assassination with the rest of his supporting research on the Israel/CIA underground...Whether Piper's conclusion of Israel planning the assassination is wrong, the 500 pages of densely-packed research contained in 'Final Judgment' is by far the best available on the subject...If you are smart you'll realize that's why Jim avoids mentioning any of it and tries to get Piper down by the sole means of his conclusion...Whether Talbot or Morley, Jim is totally dishonest because many prominent voices have spoken about Israel's relationship to the people who killed Kennedy...Jim is trying to fool himself, and at the same time the readers, by pretending he could dismiss it all in the context of Mossad planning the assassination...Piper's 500 pages of supporting research is the best, most dense and informational treatment I have ever seen in Kennedy research...Even better than DiEugenio...
" So what Koch is selling here is pure moonshine. Hopefully, you and me and Ron will be able to neutralize the guy. "
Jim is protesting too much...If you read and discussed the 500 pages of excellent expository material Piper exposes in 'Final Judgment' you'll see what Jim says is quite dishonest and that the sheer association of the operations and alliances Piper exposes makes it impossible that there would not be a connection to the Assassination...Piper follows the money and that is usually the best way to trace real doings...It is 20 years since I read 'Final Judgment' so I would have to refresh to offer better examples of how Jim is lying here...But Jim is a dirty player and I assure you his betrayal of Piper (just like he betrayed me on Prayer Man) is solely based on himself not wanting to lose clicks on his productions, since I have seen Jim cover many of the same things that Piper covered elsewhere...
Jim slips above and accidently exposes how he really operates by "neutralizing" researchers like he did myself...He does that by ganging up in cliques and manipulating dirty moderators...
" No serious researcher that I have ever met took the Collins Piper book seriously. That is just pure hogwash. "
DiEugenio uses cheap tricks like trying to get rid of Piper at the name-calling level and manipulating his usual sycophants...After watching Dirty Jim for decades I have realized that he offers a dumbed-down product on subjects he doesn't want to admit, like he does here with Piper, and then he offers a very high quality product on subjects he wants you to believe...Jim's sycophants assume that since his good material is superb that they can just take his word on it with the people he dismisses...I have watched Jim destroy a lot of good research over the years along with its sources...
" At best, it was so strained it was kind of a joke. At worst it was pernicious. Someone once told me that he overheard the late author say, "If I could just have 20 minutes with Jim DiEugenio!" Nope. If I spent like seven hours reading your book and found it completely unconvincing, how is 20 minutes going to change that? "
All Jim is doing here is offering his usual excuse-making for not debating a person who he knew was going to disprove him...He does it all the time...The reason Jim is dirty is because a lot of his research effort consists of aimed censorship and personal destruction rather than honest debate and consideration of facts...Jim does the same thing with me...Jim probably never even read 'Final Judgment' (whose 500 pages would take much more than 7 hours to read)...DiEugenio is a political weasel and his whole attitude towards Piper is based on not losing clicks...
" When I say that book was pernicious, I mean it in two ways. First, because it is so weak, it makes JFK critics look really silly and marginal. Secondly, because of that, it makes us targets. When Collins Piper was speaking out here in the LA area before he passed on, the LA Times used that to do a front page story ridiculing him and JFK researchers at the same time. Even my graduate studies professor mentioned it to me. "
Piper is literally the best source on CIA, Israel, and the Intelligence scenario in the Mediterranean...Jim covers Piper's dense coverage of this complicated, inter-tied Intelligence network with the words "silly and marginal"...He then credits media critics whom he admits are just making excuses...DiEugenio fails to mention that the media refers to himself exactly the same way as he quotes them referring to Piper...The above is just shallow excuse-making designed to make Jim's automatic followers not realize that he is skipping the entirety of Piper's material - which is quite fascinating and quite deadly accurate...Jim is offering name-calling, basically, and insulting your intelligence...Jim is dirty and when he can't get someone by their material he goes after them with the cheap stuff above...It seems that Jim credits the LA Times when they ridicule Piper and joins them in using that ridicule to avoid his facts...Otherwise Jim normally excoriates the LA Times and calls them uncredible (except when he's using them to cut down a good researcher he doesn't want to put any skin in the game over politically)...
" Go all the way back to the beginning with say Meagher and Garrison, all the way down to this day, with all the people we featured in JFK Revisited. Show me one prominent, respected writer/researcher who ever advocated that the Mossad killed Kennedy.
(Sound of crickets in the night.) "
The cheap trick Jim is using here is he's trying to conflate Piper's claim that Israel planned and carried out the assassination with the rest of his supporting research on the Israel/CIA underground...Whether Piper's conclusion of Israel planning the assassination is wrong, the 500 pages of densely-packed research contained in 'Final Judgment' is by far the best available on the subject...If you are smart you'll realize that's why Jim avoids mentioning any of it and tries to get Piper down by the sole means of his conclusion...Whether Talbot or Morley, Jim is totally dishonest because many prominent voices have spoken about Israel's relationship to the people who killed Kennedy...Jim is trying to fool himself, and at the same time the readers, by pretending he could dismiss it all in the context of Mossad planning the assassination...Piper's 500 pages of supporting research is the best, most dense and informational treatment I have ever seen in Kennedy research...Even better than DiEugenio...
" So what Koch is selling here is pure moonshine. Hopefully, you and me and Ron will be able to neutralize the guy. "
Jim is protesting too much...If you read and discussed the 500 pages of excellent expository material Piper exposes in 'Final Judgment' you'll see what Jim says is quite dishonest and that the sheer association of the operations and alliances Piper exposes makes it impossible that there would not be a connection to the Assassination...Piper follows the money and that is usually the best way to trace real doings...It is 20 years since I read 'Final Judgment' so I would have to refresh to offer better examples of how Jim is lying here...But Jim is a dirty player and I assure you his betrayal of Piper (just like he betrayed me on Prayer Man) is solely based on himself not wanting to lose clicks on his productions, since I have seen Jim cover many of the same things that Piper covered elsewhere...
Jim slips above and accidently exposes how he really operates by "neutralizing" researchers like he did myself...He does that by ganging up in cliques and manipulating dirty moderators...