The USA by a slim margin votes for Fascism, Rascism, Mysogeny, Hate.

[Fred Steeves]

I'm not sure I get your point.

You do on immigration, and we just disagree on the general Trump voter.

So, my overall point spelled out is that the immigration conversation NEVER includes the source of why many of these immigrants are flooding here in the first place, that being the US has done great harm to their home countries as you so aptly pointed out. Most happy people choose to live their entire lives in the country of their birth, leaving home is an act of desperation. 

In that same respect, the way the US liberal class (which is not the left) reasons out why people voted for bad orange man never goes any further than that they're racist, stupid, etc. There's zero introspection into what the democrat party could do better in actually going out and winning votes, as the constant drumbeat of "Trump Bad!" should be all it takes.

What's also not talked about is that in 2015 Trump won some key midwestern states that republicans seldom win, because of disaffected Obama voters. Not racist republican voters.

Same thing this time around, Michigan went to Trump based on Biden/Harris refusing to lift a finger to stop the carnage in Gaza. The joy filled "Trump Bad" candidate lost Michigan not because of racist republicans, but because she pissed away the Muslim vote. 

The only other thing I would ad is that from my observations sure, the average Trump voter is stupid, incredibly so! But certainly no more stupid than someone anxious to vote for Hillary Clinton, or Kamala Harris. I should also clarify that a bit. By "stupid", I don't mean IQ wise. 

Any more I see both parties as true cults, and things like intelligence/introspection/nuance necessarily go flying out the window once one succumbs to cult standards.