13-02-2025, 07:39 PM
(08-02-2025, 08:20 AM)Peter Lemkin Wrote: You are new here and have missed the many past years,
I've been a member here for nearly 11 years.
"If you spend some time reading my older posts you will see I am NO 'fan' of the 'USA' and their actions/hidden power-structure/history"
It doesn't matter what you may have written in some distant past. Even if you were Noam Chomsky, I'd be questioning how Uncle Noam could have incredible knowledge of Deep Politics at his fingertips, the ins and outs of manufacturing consent, yet demonstrate in real time a hyper partisan MSNBC resistance type of philosophy.
"yet you choose to attack me. You apparently attack for the sake of attack, facts a far distant second".
I'm not attacking you Peter, I'm challenging you on your stated positions, big big difference.
"I believe TEMPORARILY we must use the Democrats to remove the Fascist threat already actively destroying out polity and Nation. Once accomplished, I'd be the first to want to dump or completely transform the Democrats".
Then you've totally lost the plot, which is pretty much why we're having this "conversation" in the first place. Someone with such deep rooted knowledge of deep politics and history, should be seeing quite clearly that it was democrats, starting with Bill Clinton, who have been selling the forgotten man down the river. While saying all the right things of course... They quite adept at lip service.
What you're so urgently advocating for, is blindly voting for the same people that opened the very door to Pandora's Box in the first place.
"May I suggest you abandon your primary [and only] style of nay-sayer attack, and instead offer your own ideas for how to move forward in this existential mess we face. I think we have little time and the odds are not on our side"
I don't think there IS any realistic remedy by this point. Sure some judges can block things here and there, the liberal class (as opposed to the left) can scream til their blue in the face, but I'm afraid this thing just has to run it's course like a fever.
Over the last 4, 8, even ten years there was plenty could have been done to avoid this, but the dems thought it better to instigate a Russia hoax, impeach over bullshit, make up conspiracy theories (the Steele dossier), hit him with sleazy lawfare, advocate for draconian Covid restrictions, use social media to curtail speech of their political enemies (The Twitter Files), start a dangerous proxy war with Russia, and to top it off being up to their eyeballs in facilitating a genocide.
All that... when they could have EASILY beaten this clown of a man hands down, by simply rolling up their sleeves, and addressing the long ignored concerns of the still forgotten man.
THAT'S, what I would have advocated for, and I did; but of course it fell on deaf ears, we done FAFO, and now we sleep in the bed we have made for ourselves.
The dems, the resistance, COULD... immediately do some self reflection on why they keep losing elections to this fucking guy, get their act together and make a run at going back to their roots as the Party of Roosevelt which would give them immediate wins in the upcoming midterms and in 4 years; but mark my words, they won't, they're going to keep doing exactly what got them and us here in the first place. Keep doing the same thing, expecting different results.
" I am not your enemy"
I'm not your enemy either. I don't know, maybe you're so high up on the totem pole that even though we're on a format custom made for just that, you're not used to having your views challenged. Again, challenging views and research is not attacking.
"Watch any Chris Hedges video. His view are closer to my own than many. I could name others."
Sure, we could go down the list. John Mearsheimer, Jeffrey Sachs, Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, Abby Martin, Whitney Webb, The Grayzone, etc. I'd be right there marching alongside you, but unfortunately, none of these intellectual giants have the first thing to do with the Rachel Maddows of shitlib politics, the hyper partisan black/white - good/evil of resistance politics.
"You have me pegged incorrectly and the bias of this Forum pegged incorrectly. If you don't stop the attack for the sake of attack / criticism only for the sake of criticism I will ignore you moving forward."
I'm not talking about this forum as a whole, I'm talking to you specifically in this thread. If the only road we have to go down is Orange Man Bad, vote blue no matter who, and it's seen as attacks or even borderline trolling to question that, then just tell me and I'll bugger on off somewhere else in search of Deep Politics type conversations.
I don't care to be a burden, or a nuisance.
"Most of our best posters have died and tended to be the first or second wave of deep political researchers. There once were hundreds of new posts here each day and I am working to get back to that. It will take some time."
I'm sorry to hear that, truly. I remember back a ways having some very interesting conversations with David Guyatt. I see he last visited here nearly three years ago now, is he okay?
"FOLLOW THE EVIDENCE, WHEREVER IT LEADS" SOCRATES

