20-02-2025, 08:11 PM
(This post was last modified: 21-02-2025, 12:58 AM by Fred Steeves.)
So after having a legitimate thread deleted, and endured multiple ad hominem attacks on my character, I'm going to try once more just to see if a modicum of free speech is allowed on this once upon a time great forum.
But before I start, one more thing from the forum rules thread:
Does this forum really champion free speech? No, I think not, not any more, and daring to share any thoughts here not in lockstep agreement with admin will surely be the end of my tenure here. But let me just highlight that these people were instigators for truth, freedom of speech, and challenging establishment narratives, which is exactly what I'm doing here. Did I show back up here with that intent? Absolutely not! But once I happened to stumble into seeing how dissenting opinions are now treated here, it became my mission, my duty as a free man and a free thinker, establishment narratives cand threats of banning be damned.
With no further ado here we go, straight to the soft spot of the western establishment narrative. I contend that Vladimir Putin is not the baddie of this story, that instead, he and his country are guilty of standing in the way of the western unipole order, remaining as such. I contend, that much of the hysteria we are witness to is a modern day McCarthyism. If you don't hate Russia with every fiber of your being, and if you don't long to see that the 3 year old proxy war against them continue on down until the last Ukrainian soldier is dead, then you are hereby rendered a despicable person and to be treated with great suspicion. Maybe even an enemy of the State? A Putin Puppet?
The way I see it, the US has been the world's sole hegemon since the fall of the Soviet Union circa 1991, it got comfortable there, and with the sudden rise of a multipolar world, it is desperate to regain that sole hegemon position at all cost. Perhaps even risking extinction of the huma race at large if it must come down to that.
So why the shrieks of horror at someone going against the "Russia Bad!" narrative machine in today's polite society? Well that's pretty clear now, just as why is it now considered anti Semitic to speak out against the genocide of the Palestinians? Or why was Boy Bush compelled to say "either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists" as he lied our way into destroying Irag...
Getting back to direct topic here - this is not to say Putin is a nice man, this is to say, IMHO, that he is simply not the latest incarnation of Hitler as he is ubiquitously portrayed, and that the narrative of why he invaded Ukraine is a lie similar in magnitude to the big lie that manufactured consent to pave our way into the destruction of Iraq.
Now I'm more than happy to back my opinion with verifying evidence; but being that this thread is likely to meet the same fate as the other deletions, I'm not inclined to go much further than state my opening opinion. This is what I was instructed to do, don't dare challenge the stated opinions of others, state your own case, and that's *precisely* what I'm doing.
But before I start, one more thing from the forum rules thread:
Quote:2. This forum champions free speech. In this regard, its founders� role models include Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, and certain framers of the United States Constitution.Forum Rules
Does this forum really champion free speech? No, I think not, not any more, and daring to share any thoughts here not in lockstep agreement with admin will surely be the end of my tenure here. But let me just highlight that these people were instigators for truth, freedom of speech, and challenging establishment narratives, which is exactly what I'm doing here. Did I show back up here with that intent? Absolutely not! But once I happened to stumble into seeing how dissenting opinions are now treated here, it became my mission, my duty as a free man and a free thinker, establishment narratives cand threats of banning be damned.
With no further ado here we go, straight to the soft spot of the western establishment narrative. I contend that Vladimir Putin is not the baddie of this story, that instead, he and his country are guilty of standing in the way of the western unipole order, remaining as such. I contend, that much of the hysteria we are witness to is a modern day McCarthyism. If you don't hate Russia with every fiber of your being, and if you don't long to see that the 3 year old proxy war against them continue on down until the last Ukrainian soldier is dead, then you are hereby rendered a despicable person and to be treated with great suspicion. Maybe even an enemy of the State? A Putin Puppet?
The way I see it, the US has been the world's sole hegemon since the fall of the Soviet Union circa 1991, it got comfortable there, and with the sudden rise of a multipolar world, it is desperate to regain that sole hegemon position at all cost. Perhaps even risking extinction of the huma race at large if it must come down to that.
So why the shrieks of horror at someone going against the "Russia Bad!" narrative machine in today's polite society? Well that's pretty clear now, just as why is it now considered anti Semitic to speak out against the genocide of the Palestinians? Or why was Boy Bush compelled to say "either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists" as he lied our way into destroying Irag...
Getting back to direct topic here - this is not to say Putin is a nice man, this is to say, IMHO, that he is simply not the latest incarnation of Hitler as he is ubiquitously portrayed, and that the narrative of why he invaded Ukraine is a lie similar in magnitude to the big lie that manufactured consent to pave our way into the destruction of Iraq.
Now I'm more than happy to back my opinion with verifying evidence; but being that this thread is likely to meet the same fate as the other deletions, I'm not inclined to go much further than state my opening opinion. This is what I was instructed to do, don't dare challenge the stated opinions of others, state your own case, and that's *precisely* what I'm doing.
"FOLLOW THE EVIDENCE, WHEREVER IT LEADS" SOCRATES