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Reply to Bart Kamp at Ciphered Past
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Your works and comments need to be regularly displayed at The Education Forum where they could get more circulation and have more influence...I wish this website had more activity...There's nothing stopping people from posting...


In any case the presence of Oswald in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room is enhanced by Armstrong's brilliant 6th Floor Escape Theory...I believe Lee escaped via the passenger elevator per Armstrong's theory and exited on the 3rd Floor where he took advantage of the 3rd Floor's isolated hallway...It is possible but not necessary that right after Truly & Baker encountered Harvey in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room they ran up the stairs to the 3rd Floor staircase landing and encountered Lee in his white T-shirt...This possible encounter may have been what brought Baker in on Intel gag orders and may be the reason why he fudged and pushed the encounter up to the 3rd or 4th Floor and not the Lunch Room...

Harvey had gone down to the Lobby via either the NW stairs or through the offices and down the SE stairs...Lee then went down to the 2nd Floor Lunch Room where he bought a Coca Cola in order to establish a prop that would associate him with Harvey who also had a Coca Cola...The idea being that the Coke would make people think they were the same person and not notice the subtle differences...The Coca Cola then had to be worked out of the evidence because it was too exposing of Harvey being in the Lunch Room...

Harvey had set-up in the Lobby waiting for supervisor Shelley to return and give him permission to leave...A cop was stationed at the front door preventing anyone from leaving...Lee then walked through the offices with his Coke and was noticed by Mrs Reid...Lee went down the SE staircase and in to the Lobby where he descended in to the Lobby with Harvey on the other side of the Lobby by the door...Harvey saw Lee and panicked and tried to exit through the front door...The cop noticed Harvey's panic and stopped him, paying attention to this fleeing person and detaining him...Shelley had returned by this time and noticed what was happening so he intervened as Harvey's "superintendent", telling the cop Harvey was OK and was an employee...The cop de-escalated and told Harvey to step aside and wait...Lee also saw the mistake he had made and swung a 180 and in to the Utility Closet under the SE stairs...Campbell would later see Lee in there when he came back in...

Shelley still had the problem of the two Oswald's being in the same place so he escorted Harvey out the rear Loading Dock exit where he was seen by Buell Frazier as he exited and walked down Houston and over to Elm and the bus...Making sure he didn't make the same mistake again, Lee exited through the west rear exit and was seen by Helen Forrest exiting via the Grassy Knoll and the Station Wagon...Lee got in the Station Wagon that was driven by his co-conspirator from the 6th Floor where he was setting up Harvey...The cop in the Lobby was never identified by the Warren Commission or interviewed because this Lobby Encounter was seriously threatening to the conspiracy and had to be covered-up...Neither Oswald exited through the front door - which is why the investigation is so unexplainably lacking on how Oswald left the Depository...Lovelady helped his CIA partner Shelley by planting a BS story of seeing Oswald leave via the front door with Jarman at the HSCA...Jarman was the only person Lovelady told this story to because he was lying and trying to cover-up the dangerous real Lobby Encounter...No authority ever went to Lovelady and asked him why he never told that witnessing to anyone else or in his original statement...In the Martin Film Lovelady is smoking nervously and paying great attention to the front door...

Richard, the irony of ironies is that this brilliant solving of the case is met by an egoscape of stupidity and intolerance where you can solve the conspiracy and the reaction from the research community is organized ignoring...Even worse, organized ignoring for the purpose of entertaining a Greg Parker troll theory conducted by the research clown Bart Kamp so certain people can maintain their favoritism for Jim DiEugenio...Ciphered Past reacts to this by putting me on block and assisting Bart Kamp in an hour and a half of evidence-evasion and avoidance...The one thing they won't allow in their destructive effort of evidence discussion is Harvey being in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination and getting up to go over to look out at the staircase after hearing Adams & Styles clatter by on the landing...Armstrong and others are brilliant, however they came up one step short of reaching the correct conclusions...What I am writing here is that correct conclusion and the community reacted to it with ignoring and censorship all so it could help Jim D bring a bogus Greg Parker theory to Congress...Jim should have been escorting myself to Luna's microphone if he wanted to see some real progress in solving the case...
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Reply to Bart Kamp at Ciphered Past - by Brian Doyle - 29-03-2026, 06:20 PM

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