31-10-2009, 07:19 PM
Magda Hassan Wrote:Quote:Jonestown in Guyana, and subsequently something that required a spurious invasion and the targetted destruction of a "hospital" in Grenada.
You mean it wasn't to rescue the 15 US students visiting there during a civil disturbance? I had no idea that a hospital was destroyed. This is during Bush the first wasn't it?
This is all hearsay, what I'm about to paste in. In defense of it, I find sometimes one can learn quite a bit from what is left off wikipoedia. Plus the text has the ring of a bunch of veterans swapping war tales there because they have no other forum. It is pasted FWIW. I'm making phrases which seem to substantiate the mental hospital/MK-ULTRA story bold.
Quote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Invasion_of_Grenada
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?titl...§ion=4
There were at least two SEAL teams present, with 75th airborne Ranger rgt. SEAL team 6 was there, and six guys drowned on an early strike that hit bad weather. Denis Clalker, a SEAL team six member, tells how a platoon of Rangers was sent to take and hold a Prison, also stating that they took some hits. SEAL team six was ordered to rescue and protect a Goverment figure at his residence. While protecting the Goverment figure the team was approched by a armored vechical, although it did not engage SEAL team six. Source: One Perfect OP, by Denis Chalker. -Herper89
The incident with the SEAL team & armoured vec. metioned above is slighty inaccuarate. This incident didn't take place at the Gov. Generals residence, but at a NJM radio station. The SEALs, not sure from which team but probably SEAL Team 6, which is spanish-speaking, went in to capture a small radio transmitter near the sea, indending that it could transmit pro-US material during and in the aftermath of the invasion. After capturing the radio station, the SEALs were approched by an ad-hoc unit of about 30-50 Grenadan(??) troops, moving in a military truck, a commandered civilan minibus, and unfortunaley for the SEALs, a Russian BTR-70 APC. Although the BTR-70 is about as lightly armored as an APC can be, the SEAL team lacked any kind of anti-armour equipment and had no way of destroying the BTR. The BTR opened fire with its 14.7mm(thats over 50. cal) MG, which had no trouble penetrating the brick wall of the radio station. Flumoxed, the SEALs retreated to the sea after 5 members of the unit were wounded. About 5-10 PRA soldier were killed in the engagment. The BTR was piloted by a PRA officer named Cecil, not sure if that was his first or last name but he was the CO of the PRA ad-hoc force. Have the US after-action report some where and will write it up either as its own page or as a segment of this one.195.7.34.195 12:45, 27 March 2006 (UTC) K.B.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?titl...section=12
'Marxist-Lenininism' ?
While it is true Bishop's and Coard's speeches and comments at the time they do show some interest in some kind of Marxism, they are just as influenced by US Black Power and the general 70s anti-imperialist struggles.
Steve Barfield
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?titl...§ion=7
Only 16 US students?
I served in a paratroop company and was on the airfield the afternoon they brought a group of the medical students down to the airstrip to send them back to the states. There was damn sure more than 16 in the group I saw. Danger or not, don't know, but they seemed very pleased to see us. I don't believe they were in any danger at the time. But one has to consider that in the face off that would have ensude had an invasion not pre-empted it, there is a good chance they would have become hostages? After Iran, I don't think the Reagan administration wanted to risk it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?titl...§ion=8
I also was in the Invasion of Grenada on the USS Manitowoc (LST 1180.) There is no mention in this article that the Airfield that was so worrisome to Reagan at the time had no underground fuel capacity (and that Grenada had tried to fund it with Western monies to no avail and had to deal with the Eastern Block to get it done. Their stated intent was a tourist airstrip that could land current passenger aircraft of a reasonable size. If I remember correctly it was supposed to be built out at 13K feet. Further, I remember Fidel asking his construction workers to fight to the death. Of interest? We took a right turn at Bermuda almost two days before the coup. At the time we were on the way to relieve in Beirut (the Manitowoc was first in and last out of that operation. ) When we were done at Grenada and headed toward Beirut- someone mentioned that 13 percent of the injuries to our forces were friendly fire. I have no idea if this was ever verified. It was also my understanding at the time that the 40 plus hours we circled the island on arrival were “due to the Joint Chiefs all wanting to have their fingers in the pot.” Lastly, we did collect various folks in civs (long hair, sneakers, Uzi's/AK's) on arrival at the island. They were put on Helos and went elsewhere. I imagine that these are the Delta Force/Seal Team Six members mentioned above.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?titl...section=15
How could it happen that more Cubans were taken prisoner than there were at all??? 213.120.120.161 18:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)