douglas horne # 4 book AVAILABLE ZAPRUDER FILM ALTERED

[Peter Lemkin]

Peter if i recall correctly the set at mf will be available in december..i could not wait i have ordered book # 4...finally is an understatement there are honey times and vinegar times and there has been so much vinegar for so many years..this now seems to be perhaps a taste of honey.coming around .very sweet honey...b...

Bernice, I'd agree [for the research community and a few awake/aware Americans, and others], BUT, sadly, I'm rather skeptical that it will ever be picked-up by the controlled MSM, or part of the general public's awareness. In fact, I think the staged financial collapse to put everyone back into serfdom was contrived to distract from the [slight] awakening, worldwide and even in America the land of the somnolent. Now, even if aware, most will be too dis-empowered to do much other than try to keep themselves off the streets. Anyway, it is a most welcome event and I know I'll treasure the books, with the details of what we all knew generally.....and from the horse's mouth. :damnmate:

PETER I JUST PICKED THIS UP FROM BILL KELLY..A SHORT ARTICLE ON HORNES NEW WORK RELATING TO PEOPLE CHANGING THEIR MINDS AND AMITTING THEY HAVE BEEN IN ERROR...IN REPLY TO A QUESTION THAT TINK HAD ASKED..I THOUGHT IT QUITE RELEVANT AT THIS TIME..AND IMO WILL THE NEWS MEDIA AND SUCH PAY ATTENTION WILL THEY BE TOLD TO ACKNoWLEDGE NO.....WILL THEY BE INSTRUCTED TO IGNORE OR TAKE SOME JABS CERTAINLY,,,NOTHING MORE IS EXPECTED FROM THOSE CONTROLLED WITH THEIR HEADS BURIED IN THE SAND AND WEARING EAR PLUGS..and paid off to do so quite willingly not too many good souls amongst such any lonher nor honest ones..WITH BILL'S PERMISSION and to clarify WHICH I DO HAVE AND HAVE HAD FOR SOME YEARS TO POST VERBATIM ANYTHING HE WRITES...THIS IS HIS LATEST...B..I THINK A GOODIE..BUT HOW MANY WILL HEED OR PAY ATTENTION WITHIN THE RESEARCH WORLD I HAVE MY DOUBTS.MANY WILL NOT AS IT IS ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT THINGS TO DO IN THE WORLD FOR SOME....OF COURSE BEING CREATURES OF HABIT.MANY WILL NOT.....TAKE CARE B..

This is a very good question Tink asks. WHY CAN'T WE ADMIT MISTAKES

my question now to tink is will he be able to admit his.mistake :egg:..BERNICE..

Two years ago, while researching the background of American revolutionary patriot John Barry, I came across a reference in a book on the history of the Episcopal Academy in Philadelphia, that one John Barry taught there for a few years while three young, aspiring US Naval officers were students.

These years just happened to coincide with a black hole in the documented life of Captain John Barry, who attended the church of the Academy founder, lived in the neighborhood of the school, and recruited the three students to be Navy midshipmen on the USS United States.

I was pretty much certain that Captain John Barry was the schoolmaster, thus certifying his status as "the Father of the US Navy."

But then I obtained a copy of the preface to school master John Barry's book The Philadelphia Spelling Book, the first book copyrighted in the United States, and I found a classified ad in the Philadelphia Gazzette by Barry asking for work as a tutor, which convinced me that there was another man named John Barry, who lived in the same neighborhood, was a member of the same Irish society and taught at the Academy.

I was wrong, and two years of my research was frustrated, but I had to admit I was wrong.

Now, in the course of JFK assassination research, those who have dedicated many years to working on a specific area of research - must also get frustrated, especially when some of their basic assumptions are proven wrong.

Like those who spend years trying to determine a motive for Oswald to kill the President when it turns out he didn't kill anybody, but was framed as the patsy, just like he claimed.

Then there are those who have maintained that the Zapruder film and other physical evidence in the assassination were not tampered with, and are accurate renditions of what happened, or constitute evidence of a crime that can be introduced into a court of law.

I too, counted myself among those who believed the Zapruder film was authentic and not tampered with, and those who saw anomalies were seeing things that everyone begins to see when staring at a pictures for too long a time.

I even came up with a theory that the more you looked at a picture the more anomalies you would see.

And I would like to apologize to Jack White for saying that, as I now believe that much of his work will be vindicated by Doug Horne's revelations.

Like the medical evidence, which I considered beyond my understanding, I relied on the judgement of Dr. Wecht, Dr. Aguliar and others who I know personally who have studied the subject.

And when it came to the photo evidence, I thought Tink Thompson, Bob Groden, John Judge and others were right, and the "alterationists" wrong, especially because I thought there is much better evidence of conspiracy than alteration of photos, and there is.

Now however, after reading "The Zapruder Film Mystery" chapter in Volume IV of Doug Horne's IARRB, I now realize that I was wrong.

Even Doug in his book says it was a hard decision for him to make, but as with the recognition that they used two different brains in writing the autopsy report(s), its now clear that they also controlled the Zapruder film from early on, and that even though copies were made, they were all controlled, and the chain of evidence was broken.

This is proven by the reports of three CIA officers who made enlargements of different versions of the original film at different times at the NPIC in DC, clearly describing different films, both said to be originals.

In retrospect, if they have the kill the President, frame the patsy and control the autopsy, they certainly had the ability to control and alter other evidence as well, including the Z-film.

Now without further debate over whether Mooreman was in the street or if leaves are real, I'd like Tink and others to read the relevant chapter in Vol. IV. IARRB and let us know if the loss of the true provenance of the Z-film has an effect on the value of the evidence?

Without regard to what's on the film, can it now be accepted that the Z-film we now have at the Archives, and pay copyright for use to the Sixth Floor Museum, is not the unedited, unaltered movie that Zapruder filmed?

I understand that it will take awhile for the details of this book to circulate, and for people to buy and read, but I think its important that we all do read it and consider the implications.


Bill Kelly


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A true gentleman. I can see I am going to have to get a copy of this book. I have been somewhat agnostic on the authenticity of the Zapruder film but this has definitely piqued my interest to find out more.

I'm sure Gus Russo et al. will soon have books out on how Castro or the Mob had control of the Z-film and the autopsy :tee: Poz will claim they had control of Horne.

I'd only add, that any magician knows [and covert ops done in public or to fool the public ARE magic shows - containing all of the same elements] you lead the watching crowd to believe they are following the object of the 'magic' when you are switching it through misdirection of attention to the one that expresses the outcome of the 'trick'. While only an amateur magician myself, my uncle was a professional and his specialty was 'photo magic', and his tricks were all like those done to the Z-film and a few other still photos. It is the very incredible aspect of such a departure from what one expects and thinks one perceives that belies the fakery - and leads one to believe one's lying eyes. I wonder if they'll sell the five volume set on the 6th floor museum......:rofl: Nah....doubt it. Also doubt it will cause Mr. O-Bomb-A to start a new investigation. :dontknow:

But while all this knowledge [or more proofs of what we mostly already knew or suspected] are great - and I'll treasure this set, I'm sure! What we really need is a countercoup to get our ****ing Country back!!!!!! Those who stold it on 11/22/63 seem as in control of it and the magic show it presents daily today as they were back then. O-Bomb-A and Bushies just the frontmen for the men in the back rooms.