People or Sheeple On JFK and 'The Whole Mess'

[Peter Lemkin]

When I say 'take it back'....I don't want what America 'was'; I want what America could be...its promise.....[in all senses of the word]....

[and all those things I can endorse...]

It is not going to be an easy task.......so roll up your sleeves and lets get going....time is short, the task gargantuan, the stakes ultimate. Jensen's ideas of dismantling of the worst of 'civilization' also resonates with me. And if most don't want to follow, I personally want to find some spot to declare free of the other tyrannies, to live out the last few of my years, with a few sane and moral persons. hakehands:

Can't agree more, Peter... And I think that it was that link to/from Jensen that first made me aware of this place... Jensen's ultimate challenge may perhaps be taken as a metaphorical challenge, and somewhere in "Endgame" there is a list of other things people and ought to tbe doing, all of which fall into your list. That's more appealing, and Bruce's commentary is suggestive that organizing nvcd and wokring in soup kitchens and community garden/distribution enterprise may be as revolutionary an act as any (aside from telling the truth). I am especially focused on the human element here.

But I have a question for Peter and about his post, which is this: As good as all that sounds, isn't all that in the 'deep objectives' category?

It seems to me that we have much preliminary work to be done before we can dream of such things becoming reality; we need to learn the tools, build the bridges, fashion the packets of truth to be shipped out, etc.

We need a larger supra-guild of elves, monks, scribes, and others, some to do the research, some to feed the hopper of information to be sifted and sorted, some to re-package or re-write, some to maintain the external distribution system, some to act as hawkers and marketeers, some to function as strategists, and -- of course -- the fiscal and administrative necessities. Maybe that's what we're beginning to do. But we can't all be generalists, moving from function to function; at the risk of generating the same thing we are fighting, maybe we need more functional organization based on interests and skills and quality output. Speaking for myself, I only wish to be harnessed effectively.

I have no idea of your age or your experiences. You are aware, whatever they are. Jensen, as I said before, is a friend of mind and someone I admire greatly. A focus on humans is important, but it is not the broader spectrum needed. The enemy is entirely human, however. As to all the pre-preparation you seem to speak of...I can only remember the chaos and seamless flow of the '60s and '70s movements......where people grew decades in a day - with an epiphany of a talk, touch, gesture, kindness. heart-felt kindness and so many other things. I think 1] we don't have the luxury of the time for all this nice preparation and 2] don't need it. In a revolution, things just happen and they happen at a more rapid rate that at normal times. We desperately need a revolution of immense proportions and one that completely obliterates the old paradigms and finds new ones [really the old ones] again. I have to say for the NSA monitoring this that I believe the 'revolution' must be peaceful, but I also believe that. I am totally against violence and it is our enemies, our Nation, our Oligarchy, our corporations and our system that worship and practice violence - physical, economic, moral, political, class, sex, race, speciest, and warfare for profit and empire. Basta! We end that - or it ends all of us. That simple.