18-02-2010, 09:43 PM
(This post was last modified: 18-02-2010, 10:50 PM by Austin Kelley.)
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:I often use "MK-ULTRA" as an umbrella term to apply to the various attempts, conducted by various covert agencies, to control human minds.
There's plenty of material in the thread linked below, which includes a sketch of my sense, based on decades of research and numerous interviews with people who believe they were the subjects of mind control experimentation, of the scientific and logistical framework in which these events took place:
http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/....php?t=223
I am 100% certain that there were British "MK-ULTRA" programmes. I am also certain that the merest glimpses of those programmes have become visible.
However, William Sargant (note spelling) is clearly implicated as a military doctor engaged in entirely unethical and apparently unconstrained "mind control" research on human subjects.
I also use "MKULTRA" or sometimes "MK" as shorthand for extreme psychological manipulation that is tied to official (though usually secret) programs of various governments, including the USA and also its allies. In this research, I have personally been most focused on activities of the English-speaking nations: England, Canada, Australia and the United States, who do seem to have formed a strategic alliance on these matters since at least the early years of the Cold War.
As to similar programs run by China, the Former Soviet Union, Israel or other governments- there is much less verifiable information on these topics which I have been able to find in English. I believe there was and is an organized effort from such sectors and more should be written on these programs.
William Sargant was an very important figure in all this but I think it's important what schemata we use to understand his efforts. Jim Keith did important work on all this but he missed the boat by emphasizing a LaRouche/Far Right model which posited British agents at the root of all evil when the American spooks seem to have needed no outside inducement to violate human rights in furtherance of such goals.
That said, and in line with Keith's concerns, I do suspect the fact that an early member of the Grateful Dead inner circle, Alan Trist, was the son of a very important psychologist from the Tavistock Institute with ties to social engineering efforts- Eric Trist (who was on a visiting fellowship to Stanford at that time in the early '60's) is very, very significant somehow. Once again though, I strongly reject the LaRouchian thesis of an outside conspiracy led by Huxley, Hollingshead, Trist et al as somehow corrupting the "pure and noble" American Empire- my country was built on institutional corruption- it's as American as apple pie.
As to the theoretical framework behind it all, it seems that the place where Pavlov's concept of Transmarginal Inhibition meets Seligman's concept of Learned Helplessness and Sargant/Cameron's concept of Depatterning there you might find a place from which re-programming could occur...