Judyth Vary Baker: Living in Exile

[James H. Fetzer]

Judyth replies to Barb and to Jack about her "provisional political asylum"

Barb diverts focus. Her assignment is to 'prove' that I have lied ever since age fifteen.

Over a perod of a decade, Barb has never directly contacted me. Barb never asked to see my evidence. Barb never met me. Barb never spoke to me on the telephone.

But she is always alert to divert. Obsessed. Dedicated. Determined to discredit JVB.
Why?

1) it diverts people from the leads and information I am trying to provide.

2) IT STOPS DISCUSSION OF THE LEADS.

===What Barb wrote, and my reply====

"Martin had an unfortunate habit of running with things on Judyth's say so without checking them out. It cost him dearly."

REPLY: I told Martin what was really happening behind the scenes. Much of that was not in the official records. I described myself as being PROTECTED IN THE EU POLITICAL ASYLUM SYSTEMS. Sometimes I said protected in the system, sometimes I said protected in political asylum. It was not intended to become a lawyer's brief for Barb to pick apart, implying that I claimed I had been GRANTED same. She took the term "political asylum" and ran with it, never checking with me to see if I would have agreed with its use in that manner.

AS FOR BARB, SHE IS THE ONE WHO DID NOT DO HER HOMEWORK.
LET'S DO SOME HOMEWORK RIGHT NOW:

FIRST, I QUOTE FROM ANOTHER ASYLUM SEEKER (NOT ME):

"The first of these was to determine to which country I should go.
It could not be the United States, for this would embarrass Washington...
The immigration officers were most courteous at every point, but they
questioned me with meticulous care. Our interview required more than three hours.
Political asylum in Sweden requires formal approval at the cabinet level, hence
about one month was required to complete the certification...." (ref: A TASTE OF FREEDOM)

BARB IMPLIES I WAS TURNED DOWN BECAUSE I WAS NOT IN ANY DANGER.
HERE IS ANOTHER BIT OF HOMEWORK:



JUST A FEW MORE (THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES):

1) A woman threatened to set herself on fire outside the County Court in central Gothenburg on Friday after she had her asylum application rejected....

2) United Nation refugee agency UNHCR has criticized Sweden's decision to deport Afghan refugees to Kabul even if they have no social or family ties in the capital city...

3) Recent decisions by Sweden to send refugees back to Baghdad and other war-ravaged areas have tarnished its reputation for welcoming victims of conflict, critics say...

4) A couple from Turkey seeking asylum in Sweden threatened to set themselves on fire in the Board of Migration's offices in Kiruna on Monday. After all-day negotiations they gave themselves up.

IT IS NOT THAT EASY TO GET POLITICAL ASYLUM IN SWEDEN. ONE IN A WHEELCHAIR WAS SENT BACK TO IRAQ, THOUGH HE HAD BEEN SHOT IN AN ATTEMPT TO KILL HIM, AND WAS PARALYZED BY THAT SHOT. A HOMOSEXUAL WAS SENT BACK TO IRAN WHERE HE WAS SURELY EXECUTED.

1) Dozens of people come daily to Sweden, seeking political asylum
2) Up to half are deported IMMEDIATELY and never enter the system

Why wasn't I immediately deported?

What people typically get deported immediately, before entering the system?

a) people from free countries, such as the United States
B) anyone suspected of trying to use the system for any other means except the need for self-protection
c) they must not come directly from any other Schengen Treaty country-.

NOTE: Most EU countries, including Hungary--are Schengen.

I CAME FROM HUNGARY AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMMEDIATELY DEPORTED TO THE HUNGARIAN POLITICAL ASYLUM SYSTEM.

I WAS NOT.

question: Since I came from Hungary, a Schengen country. WHY WASN'T I MMEDIATELTY DEPORTED BACK TO HUNGARY, TO HAVE THEM HANDLE MY REQUEST, SAVING SWEDEN A LOT OF MONEY AND INVESTIGATION TIME?

answer: I CAME WITH SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE THAT MY LIFE WAS IN DANGER IN HUNGARY.

question: WHY WAS I NOT THEREFORE IMMEDIATELY DEPORTED TO MY HOME COUNTRY, THE UNITED STATES?

answer: I CAME WITH SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE THAT MY LIFE WAS IN DANGER IN THE UNITED STATES.

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

1) YOU ARE PLACED IN A LARGE PROCESSING BUILDING WITH DOZENS OF OTHERS, TYPICALLY FOR ONE OR TWO DAYS. In my case, so anxious were they, because I was an American, that I stayed there five days. I was then moved to a small town.

2) IF ACCEPTED INTO THE SYSTEM, YOU ARE THEN MOVED FROM THE RECEIVING COMPOUND INTO A SMALL, REMOTE TOWN AND GIVEN ALL YOU NEED, WHILE INVESTIGATIONS CONTINUE. THIS IS PROVISIONAL POLITICAL ASYLUM. THE PROVISIONS ARE: DEPENDING ON THE FIRST JUDGMENT IN YOUR CASE. YOU WILL STILL HAVE TWO EXTRA CHANCES TO APPEAL IF TURNED DOWN THE FIRST TIME.

BARB SAYS THERE IS NO PROVISIONAL ASYLUM IN SWEDEN.

BUT IF YOU PLUG IN "PROVISIONAL POLITICAL ASYLUM" ...BESIDES MY OWN, ON MY
SPACE...NOTE A FEW MORE FROM OTHER EU POLITICAL ASYLUM COUNTRIES:

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PROVISIONAL POLITICAL ASYLUM MEANS YOU ARE PROTECTED AND HELPED WHILE THEY
LOOK INTO YOUR CASE TO SEE IF YOU CAN STAY PERMANENTLY. ATTACHED IS
MY 'FUNDS' CARD TO WHICH FUNDS ARE ADDED...USED AT THE BANK TO GET MONEY TO
LIVE ON...BUT OF COURSE, NO PERCENTAGE IS CHARGED...ALSO USED AS ID IN THE
SYSTEM.

NOTE: AT THIS TIME, BARB AND MCADAMS' PEOPLE WERE ACCUSING ME OF BEING AN
ILLEGAL ALIEN HIDING IN SWEDEN.

BARB FAILED TO MENTION THAT.

THIS IS WHY MARTIN AND PAMELA BROUGHT OUT THE INFORMATION.



YOU ARE NOT LOCKED UP. YOU GET LIVING QUARTERS, A FUNDS CARD, ETC. I HAVE
ATTACHED MINE. NOTE THE EXPIRATION DATE IS FAR BEYOND ONE MONTH. IT WAS
GOOD UNTIL JULY, 2008. I ENTERED THE SYSTEM SEPTEMBER, 2007.

result: I was not immediately deported back to Hungary.
I was not immediately deported back to the United States.

They promised to give me refuge, as they looked into the situation
more deeply. It is commonly called "provisional political asylum".

I was assigned a lawyer.

I was advised that because I was from the US, could never get
permanent political asylum.

The letter Barb refers to was an appointment letter to find out
when it would be possible for me to leave. I had already been there nine
months. I told them I needed another few weeks...my family had secured me
safe havens and we were going through paperwork.

They gave me the extra weeks.

I did not return to the US. I was never required to do so.
Furthermore, I am a welcome guest in Sweden and spent 49% of my time in that
country in a house my son purchased for my use there. Why would my family
do that, unless absolutely necessary?

I repeat: The entire effort had been cooperative, between me and the system,
to keep me as long as possible until I could get family and friends to
arrange safe places for me to live, as there was never a chance that I, a
non-combatant, age 65 at that time, and a 'free country' US citizen, could
stay 'forever'.

Barb DOES NOT KNOW THE SYSTEM. But she thinks she does and
misreports it to the world.

SHE SAYS AFTER ONE MONTH I WAS ORDERED TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY.

response:

This is true. What Barb fails to mention is that this was a routine order.
I was urged to publicize my case so that an appeal I was advised to make, to
buy me more time, would be taken seriously and would not be immediately
rejected. Such appeals do not always languish for months, as Barb has
insinuated elsewhere. A second appeal can be rejected at once.

What happened next?

1) I was given TV coverage and made an appeal to be allowed to stay in the
country. It was broadcast in Sweden on a TV station that is watched usually
only by Swedes. The appeal was then made by my assigned lawyer, and I was
asked how much time I needed. I told them until May 15. It turned out I'd
need even more time....they eventually gave me two extra months after May
15.... but had to call me in by June to officially ask me how it was all
going. That official 'letter' was to tell me I had to leave the country. I
came into the office a few weeks later and was asked how much more time
I needed. I told them I needed three more weeks. I got it.

When the official letter came, I had already been in Sweden nine months.
Barb, cuts months off in her own version. I left Sweden after ten-and-a-half
months. I was told that I was first American woman in decades to stay even
that long under the Swedish political asylum system.

I never deported or ordered to return to America. Instead, an apartment in a
non-EU nation was arranged for me by my family and children. In addition,
my son purchased a house for me in Sweeden in a very remote area. I had made
many friends in Sweden by that time, who have helped me and who call every
day to make sure I am still safe. They and my family have made great
sacrifices for my safety. It is hard to write today because my best friend
has died and I am overwhelmed with grief.

2) After the appeal was made, I was moved to a new town because my postbox
and door were both marked, and witnesses observed that I was followed and
photographed by foreigners, not Swedes. The witnesses are sensitive to
outsiders because we were all in political asylum seekers, all of us hoping
to get positives, not negatives.

They all knew I could never get a positive.

We existed under "Provisional political asylum" and were taken care of.

The Swedes not only moved me, they then gave me a fake name to use for
mail to protect me.

That did not stop Barb, McAdams, and company from hunting me down, once
they knew I was there.

By the way, BARB & CO found that obscure 4-minute TV broadcast in Swedish.
HOW? NOBODY knew a thing about it, except the Swedes...it was all in
Swedish. I was exhausted and had been terrorized by threats. I was still
walking with a cane due to an assault that occurred in the US earlier in the
year (not related to my circumstances, it was a student on drugs who hurt me
when I tried to stop her from stealing a book).

[quote name='Jack White' post='185902' date='Mar 7 2010, 06:11 AM']
Does "provisional asylum" mean the "protection of a foreign government"?
If so, there ought to be some official documentation available.

Is she no longer under "Dankbaar asylum" in Amsterdam? What happened
to her LHO Museum there?

Why does she refuse to accept the massive 12 year documentation of John
Armstrong?[/quote]