16-03-2010, 05:11 AM
JUDYTH REPLIES TO JACK WHITE REGARDING THE OUTRAGEOUS
JOHN WILLIAMS' DEALEY PLAZA ECHO ARTICLE DISTORTIONS
Dear Jack:
You stated,
Regarding the FALSE "CORRECTIONS" OF JVB in the previous posting, here
is the source, in THE DEALEY PLAZA ECHO, an article submitted to JVB for
her comments before publication. Obviously she has told so many variations
of her story she cannot remember which is the current version.
1) Jack, I simply didn't catch it where it says Lee introduced me to ALL
those people on the same day. . I didn't read it that way due to the way
it was formatted when it came to me over the Internet.
I saw it as if in a new paragraph and thought it was just the list of the people Dr.
Williams was showing that Lee introduced me to, beginning with Dave Ferrie--not
as all in one day. I miss some things due vision problems that others might catch.
Not a single written account on record before or since that I personally wrote ever
said such a thing.
The timeline I used to correct it has been published many times. You can quickly
verify the general timeline from THE LOVE AFFAIR, which is online at YouTube
(and at my website) that I was taken to see Guy Banister after attending a party
at David Ferrie's. The party was described as happening after meeting David Ferrie
in a restaurant. That was filmed early in 2003 and reflect my personal written records.
The rest of the corrections were FIXING YOUR ERRORS.
TO WIT:
2) I corrected 'evicted'; because you did not add 'due to a police raid' and that
cast aspersions on my character to some degree....as if had been evicted perhaps
for not paying rent, or whatever...Why didn't you take the time to type out the rest of
that line so people wuld not think badly of me, and realize it was a very tramatic event?
In fact, it made Lee Oswald a rescuer in my mind.
3) You also failed, for some reason, to mention the placement of the ad that connected
me to Lee Owald's firing. Why did you omit this information? It sows a unique link to
Oswald: they wanted to terminate me the same day he was terminated.
Quote: "July 19: The day Oswald was fired at Reily, an ad was ordered, which appeared
the following day in The Times-Picayune seeking to replace the secretary for Reily’s
Vice President, William Monaghan..."
4) Surprisingly to me, you distorted information by saying Oswald found me a 'room.'
There is a considerable difference between a room and an apartment. You reduced
the value of the information. Oswald did me a considerable favor, which was reduced
in value by your loose reportage of the facts:
Here is the actual quote:
May 4: By afternoon, Lee helped Judyth move into an apartment at 1032 Marengo,
within walking distance from an apartment he said he was going to take for himself
soon thereafter
5) You went on to show the date I was terminated, August 9th, without showing the
readers here the link to the fact that I was terminated for being seen with Oswald...
who was also arrested on Aug. 9th...
"August 9: Judyth was terminated by Reily Coffee, the day she is seen with Oswald
as he was passing out pro-Castro leaflets. [25]"
Why dId you leave that out?
Though Dr. Williams establishes statistical evaluations, in his capacity as a Ph.D. in
statistics, on this article, showing the probability that we knew each other at 99%,
you make it seem that our relationship ends with Reily. You ignore the matter of
Clinton and Jackson, etc., etc., etc.. A good researcher will not be prejudiced.
Your brand of reportage dropped important facts and skewed the truth ('room'
instead of 'apartment'--WHY, Jack? I am surprised that a man of your calibre
has done such a thing.).
I have admired your work for years and am distressed to see this apparently
consistent pattern of misreporting information--if it is about about me ---in a
timeline that is easily read by all elsewhere. I hope I have explained the single
error that I did not catch on my Hungarian keyboard computer, which makes a
lot of spacings that can make something look a bit different.
Worse, others can pick up your 'timeline' -- God forbid --and get the impression
that there are fewer links between Lee Oswald and myself in this matter than,
in fact, is the case.
That's called disinformation.
August 9: Judyth was terminated by Reily Coffee, the day she is seen with Oswald
as he was passing out pro-Castro leaflets. [25
Time Lines for Judyth and Lee in New Orleans, 1963
Judyth Vary Baker in New Orleans, 1963
April 20: Judyth arrives in New Orleans.
April 26: Judyth meets Oswald in front of the post office when Judyth went there to get a letter from her fiancé, Robert Baker.
April 27: Oswald introduced Judyth to (Dr.) David Ferrie, who was said to be a colleague of Dr. Mary Sherman, a noted cancer researcher. Oswald introduced Judyth to Guy Banister, who confirmed that Oswald was working on the anti-Castro project. Then Oswald took Judyth to meet Alton Ochsner, M.D., an internationally known physician working with cancer patients and cancer research. First Oswald went in by himself, and then he invited Judyth in and introduced her to Dr. Ochsner.
April 27-May 9: Both Judyth and Lee were instructed to read the advertisements for jobs in the New Orleans Times-Picayune, focusing on the jobs at 640 Magazine, with interviews with Mr. Alvin Prechter.
May 1: Robert Baker arrived; he wished to get married immediately, because he had to leave before midnight May 3rd to go to a summer job in the Gulf Coast area.
May 2: Because of a 2-day waiting period in Louisiana, Baker and Judyth eloped to Mobile, Alabama, where they were married. [23]
May 3: evening: Robert Baker left for his summer employment.
May 3-4 Midnight: Judyth was evicted from her rented room due to a police raid and found herself on the streets. [Times-Picayune articles for May 4-5 describe these raids]
May 4: By afternoon, Lee helped Judyth move into an apartment at 1032 Marengo, within walking distance from an apartment he said he was going to take for himself soon thereafter.
Prior to May 9: Judyth worked at a fast food restaurant, Royal Castle. She worked a total of 24 hours at Royal Castle. She states that her stipend for her summer internship did not start with Ochsner for another two weeks (she’d come 2 weeks early to New Orleans due to U of FL going onto the trimester schedule, unbeknownst to Ochsner). Therefore, she had to earn some money to pay for her rent at the YWCA, where she initially stayed.
May 9: Judyth and Lee were interviewed by A.T. Prechter at 640 Magazine; they were both hired and began working for Standard Coffee (a small Reily Coffee subsidiary) the next day. Oswald was interviewed first. Judyth waited at the A-1 Employment Agency until she was contacted by Oswald . The person whom Judyth spoke to wanted to know if Judyth got a job at the coffee company, trying to extract a payment for the referral, in case that Judyth got a job. (24)
May 10: Judyth’s first day at work. Judyth worked as the production floor secretary and credit research assistant for Mr. William Monaghan, Vice-President and Finance and Credit Manager of Reily’s Coffee.
May 17: Both Judyth and Lee were transferred to Reily Coffee. They were the only persons hired by Standard Coffee and the only persons transferred to Reily Coffee during that time frame.
July 19: The day Oswald was fired at Reily, an ad was ordered, which appeared the following day in The Times-Picayune, seeking to replace the secretary for Reily’s Vice President, William Monaghan. No one was hired until the ad was replaced later in the month by another ad with more attractive details.
August 9: Judyth was terminated by Reily Coffee, the day she is seen with Oswald as he was passing out pro-Castro leaflets. [25]
Around August 23-25: Shaw, Ferrie and Oswald go to Clinton and Jackson, LA. They wait in Clinton for hours and are observed by a number of witnesses there. Judyth: “They were waiting to join the convoy that was taking the prisoner/prisoners from Angola to Jackson’s mental hospital. There was an unexpected delay. Shaw used a leased vehicle – a black Cadillac---owned by Ochsner’s International House (where Shaw had worked with Ochsner for several years until 1962) and leased to The Trade Mart. I can explain in detail why the presence of all three men, and the orderly with them, was required at this time.”
After reaching the mental hospital as part of the convoy, apparently at least one person of Cuban descent is administered the cancerous material. Within 72 hours, Judyth was taken by Oswald in a different vehicle (an old car) to see the patient. Radical changes began quickly. The man was dead within weeks. [26]
September 1: Judyth left New Orleans, presumably to continue school. Instead, she merely does some artwork at the Craft Shop there until arrangements are made for her to work at Peninsular ChemResearch Laboratories near the university, where in overtime hours she creates materials useful in preserving live cancer cells in liquid nitrogen. She is hired at “PenChem” despite the fact that she has no degree, and has taken only one course, officially, in chemistry. Note: Judyth has been able to prove the existence of dual records for the time she spent at U of Fl: officially, she received only a “D” in a basic chemistry course. In actuality, she had progressed through organic chemistry and had studied biochemistry, which is why she was able to be hired at PenChem and was allowed to work overtime hours there. (Ref: college transcript, 2005, from U of FL records, shows existence of two concurrent AA degrees granted in 1965.)
Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans, 1963
April 24: Oswald arrived late at night by bus from Dallas; he had originally bought a ticket for Marina to accompany him, but Marina was invited to live with Ruth Paine in Irving while Oswald looked for a job in New Orleans. [27]
April 26: Oswald appeared at the unemployment claims office and was interviewed by John R. Rachal.
April 29: Oswald was interviewed at the unemployment claims office by Bob Hunley (an FBI confidential informant). [28]
Oswald moved in with his aunt and uncle, Dutz and Lillian Murret. [29]
April 30: Oswald telephoned Marina and told her he was staying with the Murret’s. [30]
May 5: Oswald visited the widow of his uncle William S. Oswald for 45 minutes. His cousin, William Oswald, son of William S. Oswald (whom LHO had never met) was then a route salesman for Reily Coffee. [31]
May 6: Oswald went to the A-1 Employment Agency, who referred him to Pelican Printing for a possible job as a photographer. He was not hired. [32]
May 7: Oswald reappeared at the unemployment claims office. He also filled out forms at the Commercial Employment Agency, who referred him to the Darrell DeMoss Company; Oswald never showed for an interview. [33]
May 6-7-8: Oswald and Judyth worked together to earn incidental money at Reverend James’ Souvenir Shop on Rampart St. (Judyth took a team of researchers to the site of this shop in Jan. 2000).
May 9: Oswald was interviewed and hired for a job at Reily Coffee. He also found an apartment at 4905 Magazine. [34]
May 10: Oswald began work at Standard Coffee, a small subsidiary of Reily Coffee.
May 11: Marina and her daughter were driven to New Orleans by Ruth Paine, arriving at the Murret’s at 3:00 PM. The group then went to Oswald’s apartment. Ruth Paine stayed for three days with them at the apartment. [35]
May 14: Ruth Paine left for Dallas. In Paine’s and Marina’s correspondence, Marina noted that Lee’s love for her seemed to have disappeared after Mrs. Paine left. [36]
May 15: Oswald went to the A-1 Employment Agency for Judyth, trying to get them to not charge Judyth for the referral. Lee talked them into accepting half of her first week’s pay ($17), instead of the customary full week’s pay for the referral. Oswald paid the $17 himself. As this was Judyth’s birthday, she considered this payment by Lee as a birthday gift. (37)
May 26: Oswald wrote the Fair Play for Cuba Committee (FPCC) to obtain membership, a FPCC charter, and a photograph of Fidel Castro. Oswald stated his intentions were to form a FPCC branch in New Orleans. [38] He mentioned planning to rent an office for these activities, and that the cost would be $30 a month.
May 27: Oswald asked Judyth to buy an American Express money order for him to provide a record of having rented an office for FPCC activities, as he has no bank account and wanted evidence of the transaction. Judyth provided Oswald with a $30 American Express money order (it is dated May 27) from money she and Oswald had earned at Reverend James’ Souvenir Shop prior to being hired at Reily’s (Oswald mentioned trying to get a job at a souvenir shop doing “lettering” to his aunt Lillian (Ref; her W.C. testimony).
May 28: Oswald repaid Judyth $30 in cash. Judyth deposited $30 into her bank account, which was recorded on her next bank statement. Judyth still has the American Express money order in her files.
May 29:The FPCC sent Oswald a membership card, but discouraged him from starting a chapter in New Orleans, because “...Louisiana seems somewhat restricted for Fair Play activities.” This did not dissuade Oswald from his FPCC activities in New Orleans. [39]
June 4: Marina wrote the Russian Embassy in Washington, DC that she was homesick, had family problems, and wished to bring her daughter and have her baby in the Soviet Union. [40]
June 15-16: Someone, likely Oswald, passed out FPCC leaflets to naval personnel from the USS Wasp, just docked in New Orleans; earlier in June, someone, probably Oswald, passed out leaflets at the Tulane University campus. [41]
June 24: Oswald applied for a new passport in New Orleans. He received the passport the next day. [42] Note from Judyth: “A former Customs Agent was brought in from Miami, Florida to help expedite Lee Oswald’s passport. Other passports were also processed in the same short time period to protect Lee’s passport from close inspection. I met this former Customs Agent on June 25 on the steps of the Custom House in New Orleans, and have described him to his living family members as having a German accent, silvery hair, and tattoos on his fingers. The man was Charles Thomas, AKA Arthur Young. Both names were familiar to the members of his family who were still alive. I recognized his face and saw the tattoos on his fingers on photos provided to me by his family. They also had photos of Cubans who were friends of his, in their possession.”
July 19: Oswald’s last day of employment at Reily’s Coffee; he immediately applied for unemployment compensation. [43]
July 23- until Oswald left New Orleans; he would leave his apartment each day around 1:00 and return around 5:00, according to the report of Gladys Rogers, who lived in the apartment adjoining the Oswald’s. [44] Note from Judyth: “The Rogers’ testimonies need to be closely inspected. They reveal that Mr. and Mrs. Rogers were placed at 4907 Magazine St.—the address Oswald claimed was his—and took his mail for him. Oswald and his family actually lived in 4905, but Oswald paid for the Rogers’ rent and utilities at 4907. Marina and Ruth Paine both write letters to each other using the 4907 address even though Mrs. Paine spent three days living at 4905, and Marina knows how to read Roman numerals. Mr. Rogers did not get a job until after Oswald left New Orleans. Lee told me that they were there to protect Marina, who was pregnant, from possible harassment by anti-Castroites, since Lee advertised his address as 4907 Magazine to the public.”
July 26: Oswald cashed his last Reily Coffee paycheck at a Winn-Dixie store at 4303 Magazine. The same day, someone visited the Atomic Energy Museum in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, giving their name and address as: Lee H. Oswald, USSR, Dallas Road, Dallas, Texas. [45]
July 27: The Murret’s picked up the Oswald’s and drove to Mobile, Alabama, where Oswald gave a talk on contemporary life in Russia at Spring Hill College; his cousin Eugene Murret was a student at the college and instrumental to Oswald’s invitation to speak there. [46]
Note from Judyth: “A contact, who was a priest well known to the Kennedy family, attended this important meeting, during which information important to Ochsner and the Samoza family was passed to Jesuit priests there, and information regarding Marxist-Leninist policies was discussed, along with Castro’s influence and increasing presence in Central and South America. Bobby Kennedy was personally advised of some of this information, and Lee couriered some information to this meeting.”
August 5: Oswald visited the Casa Roca Clothing Company and spoke with the owner, Carlos Bringuier, about his (Oswald’s) guerilla warfare expertise and his anti-Castro views. [47]
August 9: Oswald was handing out FPCC leaflets on the 700 block of Canal Street. Oswald got into a scuffle with three Cubans, including Bringuier. All four were arrested. Oswald spent the night in jail. [48]
EITHER THE DEALEY PLAZA ECHO PUBLISHED JOHN'S FIRST DRAFT INSTEAD OF THE DRAFT I APPROVED--EVEN THOUGH JOHN SENT ME ACOPY IN PRINTED FORM--OR MCADAMS DID NOT CHECK TO SEE IF HE HAD AN AUTHENTIC COPY. OR, DID HE GET AN EDITED JOB FROM SOMEBODY? HEAVEN FORBID THAT HE EDITED IT HIMSELF.
THE TRUE COPY IS ATTACHED AND DR. JOHN WLLIAMS IS CC'D TO ASSURE YOU THAT IT IS THE TRUE COPY.
[quote name='Jack White' post='186938' date='Mar 15 2010, 05:18 PM']Regarding the FALSE "CORRECTIONS" OF JVB in the previous posting, here
is the source, in THE DEALEY PLAZA ECHO, an article submitted to JVB for
her comments before publication. Obviously she has told so many variations
of her story she cannot remember which is the current version.
...........
EXCERPTED FROM DEALEY PLAZA ECHO
Judyth and Lee in New Orleans
John Delane Williams and Kelly Thomas Cousins
With Comments by Judyth Vary Baker
Time Lines for Judyth and Lee in New Orleans, 1963
Judyth Vary Baker in New Orleans, 1963
April 20: Judyth arrives in New Orleans.
April 26: Judyth meets Oswald in front of the post office when Judyth went there to get a
letter from her fiancé, Robert Baker.
April 27: Oswald introduced Judyth to (Dr.) David Ferrie, who was said to be a colleague
of Dr. Mary Sherman, a noted cancer researcher. Oswald introduced Judyth to Guy
Banister, who confirmed that Oswald was working on the anti-Castro project. Then
Oswald took Judyth to meet Alton Ochsner, M.D., an internationally known physician
working with cancer patients and cancer research. First Oswald went in by himself, and
then he invited Judyth in and introduced her to Dr. Ochsner.
April 27-May 9: Both Judyth and Lee were instructed to read the advertisements for jobs
in the New Orleans Times-Picayune, focusing on the jobs at 640 Magazine, with
interviews with Mr. Alvin Prechter.
May 1: Robert Baker arrived; he wished to get married immediately, because he had to
leave before midnight May 3rd to go to a summer job in the Gulf Coast area.
May 2: Because of a 2-day waiting period in Louisiana, Baker and Judyth eloped to
Mobile, Alabama, where they were married. [28]
May 3: evening: Robert Baker left for his summer employment.
May 3-4 Midnight: Judyth was evicted from her rented room due to a police raid and
found herself on the streets. [Times-Picayune articles for May 4-5 describe these raids]
May 4: By afternoon, Lee helped Judyth move into an apartment at 1032 Marengo,
within walking distance from an apartment he said he was going to take for himself soon
thereafter.
Prior to May 9: Judyth worked at a fast food restaurant, Royal Castle. She worked a total
of 24 hours at Royal Castle. She states that her stipend for her summer internship did not
start with Ochsner for another two weeks (she’d come 2 weeks early to New Orleans due
to the University of Florida being on the trimester schedule, unbeknownst to Ochsner).
Therefore, she had to earn some money to pay for her rent at the YWCA, where she
initially stayed.
May 9: Judyth and Lee were interviewed by A.T. Prechter at 640 Magazine; they were
both hired and began working for Standard Coffee (a small Reily Coffee subsidiary) the
next day. Oswald was interviewed first. Judyth waited at the A-1 Employment Agency
until she was contacted by Oswald. The person whom Judyth spoke to wanted to know if
Judyth got a job at the coffee company, trying to extract a payment for the referral, in
case that Judyth got a job. (29)
May 10: Judyth’s first day at work. Judyth worked as the production floor secretary and
credit research assistant for Mr. William Monaghan, Vice-President and Finance and
Credit Manager of Reily’s Coffee.
May 17: Both Judyth and Lee were transferred to Reily Coffee. They were the only
persons hired by Standard Coffee and the only persons transferred to Reily Coffee during
that time frame.
July 19: The day Oswald was fired at Reily, an ad was ordered, which appeared the
following day in The Times-Picayune, seeking to replace the secretary for Reily’s Vice
President, William Monaghan. No one was hired until the ad was replaced later in the
month by another ad with more attractive details.
August 9: Judyth was terminated by Reily Coffee, the day she was seen with Oswald as
he was passing out pro-Castro leaflets. [30]
end of excerpt.[/quote]
JOHN WILLIAMS' DEALEY PLAZA ECHO ARTICLE DISTORTIONS
Dear Jack:
You stated,
Regarding the FALSE "CORRECTIONS" OF JVB in the previous posting, here
is the source, in THE DEALEY PLAZA ECHO, an article submitted to JVB for
her comments before publication. Obviously she has told so many variations
of her story she cannot remember which is the current version.
1) Jack, I simply didn't catch it where it says Lee introduced me to ALL
those people on the same day. . I didn't read it that way due to the way
it was formatted when it came to me over the Internet.
I saw it as if in a new paragraph and thought it was just the list of the people Dr.
Williams was showing that Lee introduced me to, beginning with Dave Ferrie--not
as all in one day. I miss some things due vision problems that others might catch.
Not a single written account on record before or since that I personally wrote ever
said such a thing.
The timeline I used to correct it has been published many times. You can quickly
verify the general timeline from THE LOVE AFFAIR, which is online at YouTube
(and at my website) that I was taken to see Guy Banister after attending a party
at David Ferrie's. The party was described as happening after meeting David Ferrie
in a restaurant. That was filmed early in 2003 and reflect my personal written records.
The rest of the corrections were FIXING YOUR ERRORS.
TO WIT:
2) I corrected 'evicted'; because you did not add 'due to a police raid' and that
cast aspersions on my character to some degree....as if had been evicted perhaps
for not paying rent, or whatever...Why didn't you take the time to type out the rest of
that line so people wuld not think badly of me, and realize it was a very tramatic event?
In fact, it made Lee Oswald a rescuer in my mind.
3) You also failed, for some reason, to mention the placement of the ad that connected
me to Lee Owald's firing. Why did you omit this information? It sows a unique link to
Oswald: they wanted to terminate me the same day he was terminated.
Quote: "July 19: The day Oswald was fired at Reily, an ad was ordered, which appeared
the following day in The Times-Picayune seeking to replace the secretary for Reily’s
Vice President, William Monaghan..."
4) Surprisingly to me, you distorted information by saying Oswald found me a 'room.'
There is a considerable difference between a room and an apartment. You reduced
the value of the information. Oswald did me a considerable favor, which was reduced
in value by your loose reportage of the facts:
Here is the actual quote:
May 4: By afternoon, Lee helped Judyth move into an apartment at 1032 Marengo,
within walking distance from an apartment he said he was going to take for himself
soon thereafter
5) You went on to show the date I was terminated, August 9th, without showing the
readers here the link to the fact that I was terminated for being seen with Oswald...
who was also arrested on Aug. 9th...
"August 9: Judyth was terminated by Reily Coffee, the day she is seen with Oswald
as he was passing out pro-Castro leaflets. [25]"
Why dId you leave that out?
Though Dr. Williams establishes statistical evaluations, in his capacity as a Ph.D. in
statistics, on this article, showing the probability that we knew each other at 99%,
you make it seem that our relationship ends with Reily. You ignore the matter of
Clinton and Jackson, etc., etc., etc.. A good researcher will not be prejudiced.
Your brand of reportage dropped important facts and skewed the truth ('room'
instead of 'apartment'--WHY, Jack? I am surprised that a man of your calibre
has done such a thing.).
I have admired your work for years and am distressed to see this apparently
consistent pattern of misreporting information--if it is about about me ---in a
timeline that is easily read by all elsewhere. I hope I have explained the single
error that I did not catch on my Hungarian keyboard computer, which makes a
lot of spacings that can make something look a bit different.
Worse, others can pick up your 'timeline' -- God forbid --and get the impression
that there are fewer links between Lee Oswald and myself in this matter than,
in fact, is the case.
That's called disinformation.
August 9: Judyth was terminated by Reily Coffee, the day she is seen with Oswald
as he was passing out pro-Castro leaflets. [25
Time Lines for Judyth and Lee in New Orleans, 1963
Judyth Vary Baker in New Orleans, 1963
April 20: Judyth arrives in New Orleans.
April 26: Judyth meets Oswald in front of the post office when Judyth went there to get a letter from her fiancé, Robert Baker.
April 27: Oswald introduced Judyth to (Dr.) David Ferrie, who was said to be a colleague of Dr. Mary Sherman, a noted cancer researcher. Oswald introduced Judyth to Guy Banister, who confirmed that Oswald was working on the anti-Castro project. Then Oswald took Judyth to meet Alton Ochsner, M.D., an internationally known physician working with cancer patients and cancer research. First Oswald went in by himself, and then he invited Judyth in and introduced her to Dr. Ochsner.
April 27-May 9: Both Judyth and Lee were instructed to read the advertisements for jobs in the New Orleans Times-Picayune, focusing on the jobs at 640 Magazine, with interviews with Mr. Alvin Prechter.
May 1: Robert Baker arrived; he wished to get married immediately, because he had to leave before midnight May 3rd to go to a summer job in the Gulf Coast area.
May 2: Because of a 2-day waiting period in Louisiana, Baker and Judyth eloped to Mobile, Alabama, where they were married. [23]
May 3: evening: Robert Baker left for his summer employment.
May 3-4 Midnight: Judyth was evicted from her rented room due to a police raid and found herself on the streets. [Times-Picayune articles for May 4-5 describe these raids]
May 4: By afternoon, Lee helped Judyth move into an apartment at 1032 Marengo, within walking distance from an apartment he said he was going to take for himself soon thereafter.
Prior to May 9: Judyth worked at a fast food restaurant, Royal Castle. She worked a total of 24 hours at Royal Castle. She states that her stipend for her summer internship did not start with Ochsner for another two weeks (she’d come 2 weeks early to New Orleans due to U of FL going onto the trimester schedule, unbeknownst to Ochsner). Therefore, she had to earn some money to pay for her rent at the YWCA, where she initially stayed.
May 9: Judyth and Lee were interviewed by A.T. Prechter at 640 Magazine; they were both hired and began working for Standard Coffee (a small Reily Coffee subsidiary) the next day. Oswald was interviewed first. Judyth waited at the A-1 Employment Agency until she was contacted by Oswald . The person whom Judyth spoke to wanted to know if Judyth got a job at the coffee company, trying to extract a payment for the referral, in case that Judyth got a job. (24)
May 10: Judyth’s first day at work. Judyth worked as the production floor secretary and credit research assistant for Mr. William Monaghan, Vice-President and Finance and Credit Manager of Reily’s Coffee.
May 17: Both Judyth and Lee were transferred to Reily Coffee. They were the only persons hired by Standard Coffee and the only persons transferred to Reily Coffee during that time frame.
July 19: The day Oswald was fired at Reily, an ad was ordered, which appeared the following day in The Times-Picayune, seeking to replace the secretary for Reily’s Vice President, William Monaghan. No one was hired until the ad was replaced later in the month by another ad with more attractive details.
August 9: Judyth was terminated by Reily Coffee, the day she is seen with Oswald as he was passing out pro-Castro leaflets. [25]
Around August 23-25: Shaw, Ferrie and Oswald go to Clinton and Jackson, LA. They wait in Clinton for hours and are observed by a number of witnesses there. Judyth: “They were waiting to join the convoy that was taking the prisoner/prisoners from Angola to Jackson’s mental hospital. There was an unexpected delay. Shaw used a leased vehicle – a black Cadillac---owned by Ochsner’s International House (where Shaw had worked with Ochsner for several years until 1962) and leased to The Trade Mart. I can explain in detail why the presence of all three men, and the orderly with them, was required at this time.”
After reaching the mental hospital as part of the convoy, apparently at least one person of Cuban descent is administered the cancerous material. Within 72 hours, Judyth was taken by Oswald in a different vehicle (an old car) to see the patient. Radical changes began quickly. The man was dead within weeks. [26]
September 1: Judyth left New Orleans, presumably to continue school. Instead, she merely does some artwork at the Craft Shop there until arrangements are made for her to work at Peninsular ChemResearch Laboratories near the university, where in overtime hours she creates materials useful in preserving live cancer cells in liquid nitrogen. She is hired at “PenChem” despite the fact that she has no degree, and has taken only one course, officially, in chemistry. Note: Judyth has been able to prove the existence of dual records for the time she spent at U of Fl: officially, she received only a “D” in a basic chemistry course. In actuality, she had progressed through organic chemistry and had studied biochemistry, which is why she was able to be hired at PenChem and was allowed to work overtime hours there. (Ref: college transcript, 2005, from U of FL records, shows existence of two concurrent AA degrees granted in 1965.)
Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans, 1963
April 24: Oswald arrived late at night by bus from Dallas; he had originally bought a ticket for Marina to accompany him, but Marina was invited to live with Ruth Paine in Irving while Oswald looked for a job in New Orleans. [27]
April 26: Oswald appeared at the unemployment claims office and was interviewed by John R. Rachal.
April 29: Oswald was interviewed at the unemployment claims office by Bob Hunley (an FBI confidential informant). [28]
Oswald moved in with his aunt and uncle, Dutz and Lillian Murret. [29]
April 30: Oswald telephoned Marina and told her he was staying with the Murret’s. [30]
May 5: Oswald visited the widow of his uncle William S. Oswald for 45 minutes. His cousin, William Oswald, son of William S. Oswald (whom LHO had never met) was then a route salesman for Reily Coffee. [31]
May 6: Oswald went to the A-1 Employment Agency, who referred him to Pelican Printing for a possible job as a photographer. He was not hired. [32]
May 7: Oswald reappeared at the unemployment claims office. He also filled out forms at the Commercial Employment Agency, who referred him to the Darrell DeMoss Company; Oswald never showed for an interview. [33]
May 6-7-8: Oswald and Judyth worked together to earn incidental money at Reverend James’ Souvenir Shop on Rampart St. (Judyth took a team of researchers to the site of this shop in Jan. 2000).
May 9: Oswald was interviewed and hired for a job at Reily Coffee. He also found an apartment at 4905 Magazine. [34]
May 10: Oswald began work at Standard Coffee, a small subsidiary of Reily Coffee.
May 11: Marina and her daughter were driven to New Orleans by Ruth Paine, arriving at the Murret’s at 3:00 PM. The group then went to Oswald’s apartment. Ruth Paine stayed for three days with them at the apartment. [35]
May 14: Ruth Paine left for Dallas. In Paine’s and Marina’s correspondence, Marina noted that Lee’s love for her seemed to have disappeared after Mrs. Paine left. [36]
May 15: Oswald went to the A-1 Employment Agency for Judyth, trying to get them to not charge Judyth for the referral. Lee talked them into accepting half of her first week’s pay ($17), instead of the customary full week’s pay for the referral. Oswald paid the $17 himself. As this was Judyth’s birthday, she considered this payment by Lee as a birthday gift. (37)
May 26: Oswald wrote the Fair Play for Cuba Committee (FPCC) to obtain membership, a FPCC charter, and a photograph of Fidel Castro. Oswald stated his intentions were to form a FPCC branch in New Orleans. [38] He mentioned planning to rent an office for these activities, and that the cost would be $30 a month.
May 27: Oswald asked Judyth to buy an American Express money order for him to provide a record of having rented an office for FPCC activities, as he has no bank account and wanted evidence of the transaction. Judyth provided Oswald with a $30 American Express money order (it is dated May 27) from money she and Oswald had earned at Reverend James’ Souvenir Shop prior to being hired at Reily’s (Oswald mentioned trying to get a job at a souvenir shop doing “lettering” to his aunt Lillian (Ref; her W.C. testimony).
May 28: Oswald repaid Judyth $30 in cash. Judyth deposited $30 into her bank account, which was recorded on her next bank statement. Judyth still has the American Express money order in her files.
May 29:The FPCC sent Oswald a membership card, but discouraged him from starting a chapter in New Orleans, because “...Louisiana seems somewhat restricted for Fair Play activities.” This did not dissuade Oswald from his FPCC activities in New Orleans. [39]
June 4: Marina wrote the Russian Embassy in Washington, DC that she was homesick, had family problems, and wished to bring her daughter and have her baby in the Soviet Union. [40]
June 15-16: Someone, likely Oswald, passed out FPCC leaflets to naval personnel from the USS Wasp, just docked in New Orleans; earlier in June, someone, probably Oswald, passed out leaflets at the Tulane University campus. [41]
June 24: Oswald applied for a new passport in New Orleans. He received the passport the next day. [42] Note from Judyth: “A former Customs Agent was brought in from Miami, Florida to help expedite Lee Oswald’s passport. Other passports were also processed in the same short time period to protect Lee’s passport from close inspection. I met this former Customs Agent on June 25 on the steps of the Custom House in New Orleans, and have described him to his living family members as having a German accent, silvery hair, and tattoos on his fingers. The man was Charles Thomas, AKA Arthur Young. Both names were familiar to the members of his family who were still alive. I recognized his face and saw the tattoos on his fingers on photos provided to me by his family. They also had photos of Cubans who were friends of his, in their possession.”
July 19: Oswald’s last day of employment at Reily’s Coffee; he immediately applied for unemployment compensation. [43]
July 23- until Oswald left New Orleans; he would leave his apartment each day around 1:00 and return around 5:00, according to the report of Gladys Rogers, who lived in the apartment adjoining the Oswald’s. [44] Note from Judyth: “The Rogers’ testimonies need to be closely inspected. They reveal that Mr. and Mrs. Rogers were placed at 4907 Magazine St.—the address Oswald claimed was his—and took his mail for him. Oswald and his family actually lived in 4905, but Oswald paid for the Rogers’ rent and utilities at 4907. Marina and Ruth Paine both write letters to each other using the 4907 address even though Mrs. Paine spent three days living at 4905, and Marina knows how to read Roman numerals. Mr. Rogers did not get a job until after Oswald left New Orleans. Lee told me that they were there to protect Marina, who was pregnant, from possible harassment by anti-Castroites, since Lee advertised his address as 4907 Magazine to the public.”
July 26: Oswald cashed his last Reily Coffee paycheck at a Winn-Dixie store at 4303 Magazine. The same day, someone visited the Atomic Energy Museum in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, giving their name and address as: Lee H. Oswald, USSR, Dallas Road, Dallas, Texas. [45]
July 27: The Murret’s picked up the Oswald’s and drove to Mobile, Alabama, where Oswald gave a talk on contemporary life in Russia at Spring Hill College; his cousin Eugene Murret was a student at the college and instrumental to Oswald’s invitation to speak there. [46]
Note from Judyth: “A contact, who was a priest well known to the Kennedy family, attended this important meeting, during which information important to Ochsner and the Samoza family was passed to Jesuit priests there, and information regarding Marxist-Leninist policies was discussed, along with Castro’s influence and increasing presence in Central and South America. Bobby Kennedy was personally advised of some of this information, and Lee couriered some information to this meeting.”
August 5: Oswald visited the Casa Roca Clothing Company and spoke with the owner, Carlos Bringuier, about his (Oswald’s) guerilla warfare expertise and his anti-Castro views. [47]
August 9: Oswald was handing out FPCC leaflets on the 700 block of Canal Street. Oswald got into a scuffle with three Cubans, including Bringuier. All four were arrested. Oswald spent the night in jail. [48]
EITHER THE DEALEY PLAZA ECHO PUBLISHED JOHN'S FIRST DRAFT INSTEAD OF THE DRAFT I APPROVED--EVEN THOUGH JOHN SENT ME ACOPY IN PRINTED FORM--OR MCADAMS DID NOT CHECK TO SEE IF HE HAD AN AUTHENTIC COPY. OR, DID HE GET AN EDITED JOB FROM SOMEBODY? HEAVEN FORBID THAT HE EDITED IT HIMSELF.
THE TRUE COPY IS ATTACHED AND DR. JOHN WLLIAMS IS CC'D TO ASSURE YOU THAT IT IS THE TRUE COPY.
[quote name='Jack White' post='186938' date='Mar 15 2010, 05:18 PM']Regarding the FALSE "CORRECTIONS" OF JVB in the previous posting, here
is the source, in THE DEALEY PLAZA ECHO, an article submitted to JVB for
her comments before publication. Obviously she has told so many variations
of her story she cannot remember which is the current version.
...........
EXCERPTED FROM DEALEY PLAZA ECHO
Judyth and Lee in New Orleans
John Delane Williams and Kelly Thomas Cousins
With Comments by Judyth Vary Baker
Time Lines for Judyth and Lee in New Orleans, 1963
Judyth Vary Baker in New Orleans, 1963
April 20: Judyth arrives in New Orleans.
April 26: Judyth meets Oswald in front of the post office when Judyth went there to get a
letter from her fiancé, Robert Baker.
April 27: Oswald introduced Judyth to (Dr.) David Ferrie, who was said to be a colleague
of Dr. Mary Sherman, a noted cancer researcher. Oswald introduced Judyth to Guy
Banister, who confirmed that Oswald was working on the anti-Castro project. Then
Oswald took Judyth to meet Alton Ochsner, M.D., an internationally known physician
working with cancer patients and cancer research. First Oswald went in by himself, and
then he invited Judyth in and introduced her to Dr. Ochsner.
April 27-May 9: Both Judyth and Lee were instructed to read the advertisements for jobs
in the New Orleans Times-Picayune, focusing on the jobs at 640 Magazine, with
interviews with Mr. Alvin Prechter.
May 1: Robert Baker arrived; he wished to get married immediately, because he had to
leave before midnight May 3rd to go to a summer job in the Gulf Coast area.
May 2: Because of a 2-day waiting period in Louisiana, Baker and Judyth eloped to
Mobile, Alabama, where they were married. [28]
May 3: evening: Robert Baker left for his summer employment.
May 3-4 Midnight: Judyth was evicted from her rented room due to a police raid and
found herself on the streets. [Times-Picayune articles for May 4-5 describe these raids]
May 4: By afternoon, Lee helped Judyth move into an apartment at 1032 Marengo,
within walking distance from an apartment he said he was going to take for himself soon
thereafter.
Prior to May 9: Judyth worked at a fast food restaurant, Royal Castle. She worked a total
of 24 hours at Royal Castle. She states that her stipend for her summer internship did not
start with Ochsner for another two weeks (she’d come 2 weeks early to New Orleans due
to the University of Florida being on the trimester schedule, unbeknownst to Ochsner).
Therefore, she had to earn some money to pay for her rent at the YWCA, where she
initially stayed.
May 9: Judyth and Lee were interviewed by A.T. Prechter at 640 Magazine; they were
both hired and began working for Standard Coffee (a small Reily Coffee subsidiary) the
next day. Oswald was interviewed first. Judyth waited at the A-1 Employment Agency
until she was contacted by Oswald. The person whom Judyth spoke to wanted to know if
Judyth got a job at the coffee company, trying to extract a payment for the referral, in
case that Judyth got a job. (29)
May 10: Judyth’s first day at work. Judyth worked as the production floor secretary and
credit research assistant for Mr. William Monaghan, Vice-President and Finance and
Credit Manager of Reily’s Coffee.
May 17: Both Judyth and Lee were transferred to Reily Coffee. They were the only
persons hired by Standard Coffee and the only persons transferred to Reily Coffee during
that time frame.
July 19: The day Oswald was fired at Reily, an ad was ordered, which appeared the
following day in The Times-Picayune, seeking to replace the secretary for Reily’s Vice
President, William Monaghan. No one was hired until the ad was replaced later in the
month by another ad with more attractive details.
August 9: Judyth was terminated by Reily Coffee, the day she was seen with Oswald as
he was passing out pro-Castro leaflets. [30]
end of excerpt.[/quote]