Just Was Removed By Walker On Other Forum

[Peter Lemkin]

From the EF: John Simkin @ Mar 16 2010, 08:48 AM)

... Andy and myself did discuss this complaint when it was originally made. The problem was the complaint was made at a time when we were discussing whether Peter Lemkin should be made a moderator. I was concerned that Peter was a target of a smear campaign. Without being sent copies of the offensive emails it was impossible to ban him from the forum for a crime that we did not have enough evidence to convict him of.

So, now knowing it was false and I was the target of a smear campaign organized, apparently, by Walker himself, Simkin still defends this anti-matter logic. Now it becomes this thread and my mentioning the possibility [to this day there is no reality nor action toward...] of legal action to clear my name and to get justice for libelous statements and lack of ability to defend against them. John, Walker even resigned over what he did - just about an admission of wrongdoing - and you asked him back; but if he was guilty by his own admission of doing me wrong how could you let him then vote on me and block my IP and cut me off - and they approve post facto those actions. In your Gratz diversion thread you refuse to mention [on purpose, IMO] that even Gratz did not have his posts removed. What kind of endless dissembling and now gagging the members from letting me speak [after wrongly treated and wrongly removed BEFORE any mention whatsoever of the word 'legal'?!] - or of the clear threat implied they can NOT EVEN speak in their own voice in my support without chance and likelihood of permanent moderation. It has become the EF Gulag, IMO.

I had someone who seemed to me like a messenger from you, who made it sound as if it were their own idea; but I know how these things usually work - who told me to stop posting on this thread or I'll never see my posts again [in either a DVD form or on the EF again]. I'll turn that around. I will NOT STOP POSTING about what went on there and how I was wronged and how you are twisting and distorting history and hiding and protecting the guilty [Walker] UNLESS and UNTIL either the posts are put back up [much preferred], or I receive all of them via DVD. Final on that! Any attempt to silence me after the gross injustices done to me when I had committed nothing wrong - only trying to defend myself - will not stand. Your few dissembling post hoc 'rationales' for why the horrors were done to me BEFORE the actions you now use as the excuse are just that - excuses.

YOU have NOW been sent copies of the 'email in question', though you haven't admitted to that. Four others have as well, and they are free and invited to comment on them on forum. They are harmless in all manner mentioned or WHISPERED about - and in Walker's vile attack on me in his PM - which we now know was based on lies, hearsay and political vendetta - ONLY - yet you act as if it was still valid and not the trigger for much of what followed. How clever you are about others; how obtuse about your own psyche!. Since you chose to make it and all my attempts at a defense against the illegal and unethical lynching I was undergoing disappear [much in the manner of the three-letter agencies] here it is:

Personal MessageAndy Walker Sep 10 2009, 01:12 PM
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You appear to be calling me a racist elsewhere.
Perhaps you would like to substantiate this claim on the forum.

Andy, My comments were not intended to say [nor do I think that] you are a racist. You and I, obviously have rather opposite views of history, current political underpinnings, and who rules these societies and perhaps many of them into Empires, or not. There is a 'standard' history [that of the dominant powers, the mainstream media and the [in my view] hidden from public view Oligarchy] and a 'real' People's History. One is top-down; the other bottom-up. One is [IMO] mostly propaganda for control; the other the actual events uncovered. If you believe LHO killed JFK and that Princess Diana had a non-conspiratorial accident - or that 19 bad pilots and men of slight build and a guy in a cave masterminded 9-11 and outwitted the most powerful military and nation on Earth, that doesn't make you a racist...only naive, IMO. I don't engage you much on the Forum, not because you are numero uno, but because you seem so entrenched and self-blinded, I think there is little to be gained. You must think me quite insane. Fine. We'll stage the revolution without you. IMO History of the last 14,000 years or so [when the domination paradigm kicked-in] has been one of powerful small groups and individuals conspiring for power, money and control of information. You do not. So be it. I have not one doubt in my belief. What must you think of John, who shares many of my beliefs....with the possible exception of 9-11 [as he has never weighed in on that, I really don't know]? Education is both learning facts and collected knowledge, as well as the ability to think for oneself and to always question the perceived wisdom, facts and authority. That is how I teach. No offense was meant in my post. I was making statements about empire, but don't know if you back them. Only fear you don't see them [now]...not the one's of old. They are still with us....and even stronger than before, as they are more hidden now.

Best. Peter

Yes I believe you are mad - boilingly so. Every time you post this is confirmed. I also contend that you are quite a dangerous and mixed up personality. You might be aware I am sure of the complaints of harrassment I have received about you from forum members which only remain in the private realm out of my respect for the wishes of the complainees. This when coupled to the fantasy 'conspiracy' world you live in suggests to me a really quite dangerous and disjointed individual.
You are I am sure incapable of seeing the irony in your comments so I won't labour them 'entrenched and self-blinded' 'naive'!
Just like the coward Drago you place me in the 'out group' and refuse to debate with me. Yours is the logic of the Nazi.
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Andy Walker