Judyth Vary Baker: Living in Exile

[James H. Fetzer]

COMMENTS ON "THE TWO OSWALDS" AND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE

Judyth and I are gravitating toward the same position about this "two Oswalds"
business, which she has expressed here as well as I could have put it myself:

FROM WHAT WE ARE SEEING, THIS "HARVEY AND LEE" THING HAS BEEN A
DISTRACTION OF MAJOR PROPORTIONS IN THIS CASE...SUCCESSFUL, NEARLY,
IN ISOLATING "HARVEY" AS HAVING LITTLE TO DO WITH THE PLOT AND VERY
CONVENIENT TO SAY HE WAS UNWITTINGLY TRAPPED, SO THAT HIS HEROIC
ACTIONS IN TRYING TO SAVE JFK WOULD NEVER BE RECOGNIZED OR EVER
BELIEVED BY SOME VERY FINE RESEARCHERS...AND IF A WITNESS COMES
ALONG SAYING OTHERWISE, THEN THEY COULD BE QUICKLY DISMISSED.

I THANK GOD I KNEW THE REAL LEE. I HAVE NOT YET BEGUN TO FIGHT.

But of course all of this will be explained by "the false defector program"!

WHILE TAKING A SHOWER, I STARTED TO THINK ABOUT SUCH A PROGRAM:

1) IT MUST HAVE BEEN ADVERTISED NATIONALLY, SO MARGUERITE WOULD
BE ABLE TO READ ABOUT IT;

2) CHILDREN AND PARENTS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WOULD HAVE
DESCENDED UPON NEW YORK;

3) WITH ALL THE ATTENTION, THE SOVIETS AND THEIR ASSOCIATES WOULD
NO DOUBT HAVE LEARNED ABOUT IT;

4) IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PLACED UNDER SURVEILLANCE AND THOSE WHO
WERE RECRUITED WOULD HAVE BEEN TRACKED;

5) SO WHEN THE TIME CAME FOR A FAKE DEFECTION, THE SOVIETS WOULD
HAVE ALREADY KNOWN WHO WAS COMING;

6) WHICH MEANS THAT A PROGRAM OF THAT KIND WOULD SURELY HAVE BEEN
SELF-DEFEATING; WHICH MEANS

7) ANY RECRUITING PROGRAM WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN COVERT
AND RUN THROUGH THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS;

8) WHERE INVITATIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN EXTENDED UNDER THE MOST
CAREFULLY CONTROLLED CONDITIONS; AND,

9) SECRECY WOULD HAVE BEEN THE WATCHWORD--MASSIVE, TOTAL, AND
COMPLETE AND UTTER SECRECY.

SO FAR AS I AM ABLE TO DISCERN. THE PROGRAM DESCRIBED HERE WOULD
HAVE BEEN A MANIFEST ABSURDITY.

[quote name='Jack White' post='188037' date='Mar 28 2010, 03:06 AM']
The above reply indicates a lack of understanding of the FALSE DEFECTOR PROGRAM.

Here is the probable scenario.

1. With her family's knowledge, Marguerite took Lee to New York for "mental testing".

2. The mental testing turned out to be a CIA operation to look for candidates to LEND
THEIR IDENTITY TO THE CIA for a FALSE DEFECTOR PROGRAM.

3. Marguerite, Robert and John Pic all considered this PATRIOTIC.

4. There was NO RISK to Lee; all he was doing was allowing his identity to be used.

5. This happened when Lee was 12 or 13 years old; he probably liked the intrigue of it...
his name being used by a spy being trained.

6. Marguerite likely received much needed compensation for doing this.

7. Armstrong documents how when Marguerite returns to Fort Worth, she began
buying real estate, though said to be destitute.

8. John Pic was first to say that there was a substitute for his half brother. A photo
of Harvey playing hookey at the Bronx Zoo during the New York stay Pic said was
not anyone he recognized.

9. Robert knew of the operation from the beginning, but did not meet HARVEY
until the Thanksgiving Reunion.

10. Lee and Harvey clearly knew each other according to Armstrong's timelines.

11. Ruth Paine was clearly the handler for both Lee and Harvey, and both of them
were involved in the JFK plot, though not witting that Harvey was to be the PATSY.

12. It was arranged that Harvey lived in a rooming house during the week, while
Lee lived at the Paine house.

13. Lee lived at the Paine house on weekends only; it is not known where Lee
lived on weekends.

14. It should be remembered that Marina said: I HAD TWO HUSBANDS, HARVEY
AND LEE.

(“I had two husbands: Lee, the father of my children, an affectionate and kind man;
and Harvey Oswald, the assassin of President Kennedy.”)

Jack[/quote]