26-04-2010, 12:46 AM
SOME REFLECTIONS ON THE APPEAL TO WHAT IS "LOGICAL" AND WHAT IS NOT
Truth can be stranger than fiction. When you look where you've been, sometimes
you had no idea where you were going. Judyth was talented at cancer research.
She was lured to New Orleans by Alton Ochsner. There was a problem with the
polio vaccine, which had to be treated covertly to avoid alarming the public. Dr.
Mary Sherman was engaged in research there. The experiments did involve mice
and monkeys. David Ferrie and others were involved in conducting that research.
It involved the use of a linear particle accelerator. Someone had to have assisted
her. Judyth and Lee were hired by Riley's on the same day. Judyth kept the time
cards and other records for Oswald. Anna Lewis has testified that she and David,
her husband, even "double-dated" with Judyth and Lee. Mary Sherman was killed,
apparently using a linear particle accelerator. The death scene at her apartment
was staged. Ochsner did inoculate his grandchildren, killing one, while inducing
polio in the other. Judyth does appear to have been summarily sacked after she
protested the use of a prisoner in a (fatal) experiment without informed consent.
David Ferrie appears to have been silenced; and Ruby, too, using the bio-weapon.
And a second "Judyth Vary Baker" was used to impersonate the real Judyth Vary.
What could be a greater stretch than the idea of "two Oswalds", both having the
same name, one called "Harvey", the other "Lee", who even attended the same
schools, though not at the same time, where one was born in Hungary, physically
unimposing but intellectually able, who spoke fluent Russian but could not drive,
while the other had a propensity for violence, could drive but could not speak any
Russian and who had no interest in political philosophy or matters intellectual,
both of whom had mothers by the same name, where one of them ("Lee") lost
a tooth at Beauregard Junior High School, but Lillian Murret, the aunt of the
other ("Harvey"), paid for his dental bill, where his brother, Robert, who looks
exactly like him, is not supposed to be related genetically and who could have
effortlessly impersonated him did not, even though, after the assassination, he
would give lectures and publish a book falsely blaming his brother for a crime
he did not commit, where not only Aunt Lillian but Robert, Marguerite, and
Marina all knew of the existence of both "Harvey" and "Lee", even though none
of them ever uttered a peep! Neither of these stories is "logical" in the sense
Jack intends. Yet, I submit, at least one of these stories appears to be true.
[quote name='James H. Fetzer' post='190576' date='Apr 23 2010, 05:09 PM']
Jack,
I like these posts (which does not mean that I agree with them) and I hereby
withdraw my disavowal of our friendship. I think we can survive in spite of
our differences about Judyth Vary. I want to publicly reaffirm our friendship!
Jim
[quote name='Jack White' post='190573' date='Apr 23 2010, 04:50 PM']
[quote name='John Simkin' post='190534' date='Apr 23 2010, 08:05 AM']
[quote name='Jack White' post='185259' date='Mar 1 2010, 07:35 AM']
This, I hope, will be my FINAL posting on this subject. Someone or some agency
has designed the JVB affair TO DIVIDE RESEARCHERS. The have succeeded beyond
their expectations.
Let us all concede for a moment EVERY STATEMENT made by JVB is TRUE. What are
we left with which might advance the solution to the JFK case???
1. This teen science student was recruited by the CIA to assist David Ferrie in designing
a means of killing Fidel Castro using cancer cells.
2. This teen girl was introduced into high level anti-Castro Cuban persons in New Orleans,
including Carlos Marcello, Guy Bannister, Clay Shaw, Dr. Oschner and others.
3. This married teen girl was assisted by these anti-Castro persons on a few days notice
to become involved in a romance with a CIA asset who had been steered into employment
at a CIA asset company.
4. What agency recruits high school students to devise cancer infections to be used in
assassination attempts? What agency uses this student, a strange ex-pilot, a famed
doctor and medical researcher who is strangely murdered to devise cancer strains to
be delivered to Cuba to kill Castro?
5. Much later, this teen girl learned that her lover was involved in a plot to kill the president
but instead of reporting this plot, she aids and abets her lover's involvement.
Now where have we heard all of this before? Who or what agency has been heavily
involved in promoting the Cuban connection as the perpetrators of the assassination?
The answer is clear.
I hope this is my final word.
Carry on.
Jack[/quote]
Jack, I have been very impressed with your postings on this thread.
[/quote]
Thank you John. I treat the evidence of JVB as I do all other evidence.
My first question is...IS IT LOGICAL?
It is not logical that the CIA needed a teen girl and a homosexual
airline pilot to devise "cancer weapons", because they have the vast
resources of Fort Detrick nearby. It is not logical that if a section of
the CIA was controlling a false defector who was then diverted to
an assassination plot, that the defector, LHO, would be allowed by
his controllers and surveillance to engage in a second activity, nor
become involved with a teenage girl. Framing a patsy for a planned
murder was serious business; LHO was plainly ordered to New Orleans
to be sheep dipped as a CASTRO SYMPATHIZER to aid his image
as a commie killer. It is logical that this was of paramount importance
to the plotters, and they would not risk it being derailed. It is logical
that the plotters KNEW EVERY MOVE OF THIER PATSY, had him under
surveillance at all times, and knew all of his associates. There is no
record of his association with Mary, Vary and Ferrie in the mice and
monkey business.
Jack
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Truth can be stranger than fiction. When you look where you've been, sometimes
you had no idea where you were going. Judyth was talented at cancer research.
She was lured to New Orleans by Alton Ochsner. There was a problem with the
polio vaccine, which had to be treated covertly to avoid alarming the public. Dr.
Mary Sherman was engaged in research there. The experiments did involve mice
and monkeys. David Ferrie and others were involved in conducting that research.
It involved the use of a linear particle accelerator. Someone had to have assisted
her. Judyth and Lee were hired by Riley's on the same day. Judyth kept the time
cards and other records for Oswald. Anna Lewis has testified that she and David,
her husband, even "double-dated" with Judyth and Lee. Mary Sherman was killed,
apparently using a linear particle accelerator. The death scene at her apartment
was staged. Ochsner did inoculate his grandchildren, killing one, while inducing
polio in the other. Judyth does appear to have been summarily sacked after she
protested the use of a prisoner in a (fatal) experiment without informed consent.
David Ferrie appears to have been silenced; and Ruby, too, using the bio-weapon.
And a second "Judyth Vary Baker" was used to impersonate the real Judyth Vary.
What could be a greater stretch than the idea of "two Oswalds", both having the
same name, one called "Harvey", the other "Lee", who even attended the same
schools, though not at the same time, where one was born in Hungary, physically
unimposing but intellectually able, who spoke fluent Russian but could not drive,
while the other had a propensity for violence, could drive but could not speak any
Russian and who had no interest in political philosophy or matters intellectual,
both of whom had mothers by the same name, where one of them ("Lee") lost
a tooth at Beauregard Junior High School, but Lillian Murret, the aunt of the
other ("Harvey"), paid for his dental bill, where his brother, Robert, who looks
exactly like him, is not supposed to be related genetically and who could have
effortlessly impersonated him did not, even though, after the assassination, he
would give lectures and publish a book falsely blaming his brother for a crime
he did not commit, where not only Aunt Lillian but Robert, Marguerite, and
Marina all knew of the existence of both "Harvey" and "Lee", even though none
of them ever uttered a peep! Neither of these stories is "logical" in the sense
Jack intends. Yet, I submit, at least one of these stories appears to be true.
[quote name='James H. Fetzer' post='190576' date='Apr 23 2010, 05:09 PM']
Jack,
I like these posts (which does not mean that I agree with them) and I hereby
withdraw my disavowal of our friendship. I think we can survive in spite of
our differences about Judyth Vary. I want to publicly reaffirm our friendship!
Jim
[quote name='Jack White' post='190573' date='Apr 23 2010, 04:50 PM']
[quote name='John Simkin' post='190534' date='Apr 23 2010, 08:05 AM']
[quote name='Jack White' post='185259' date='Mar 1 2010, 07:35 AM']
This, I hope, will be my FINAL posting on this subject. Someone or some agency
has designed the JVB affair TO DIVIDE RESEARCHERS. The have succeeded beyond
their expectations.
Let us all concede for a moment EVERY STATEMENT made by JVB is TRUE. What are
we left with which might advance the solution to the JFK case???
1. This teen science student was recruited by the CIA to assist David Ferrie in designing
a means of killing Fidel Castro using cancer cells.
2. This teen girl was introduced into high level anti-Castro Cuban persons in New Orleans,
including Carlos Marcello, Guy Bannister, Clay Shaw, Dr. Oschner and others.
3. This married teen girl was assisted by these anti-Castro persons on a few days notice
to become involved in a romance with a CIA asset who had been steered into employment
at a CIA asset company.
4. What agency recruits high school students to devise cancer infections to be used in
assassination attempts? What agency uses this student, a strange ex-pilot, a famed
doctor and medical researcher who is strangely murdered to devise cancer strains to
be delivered to Cuba to kill Castro?
5. Much later, this teen girl learned that her lover was involved in a plot to kill the president
but instead of reporting this plot, she aids and abets her lover's involvement.
Now where have we heard all of this before? Who or what agency has been heavily
involved in promoting the Cuban connection as the perpetrators of the assassination?
The answer is clear.
I hope this is my final word.
Carry on.
Jack[/quote]
Jack, I have been very impressed with your postings on this thread.
[/quote]
Thank you John. I treat the evidence of JVB as I do all other evidence.
My first question is...IS IT LOGICAL?
It is not logical that the CIA needed a teen girl and a homosexual
airline pilot to devise "cancer weapons", because they have the vast
resources of Fort Detrick nearby. It is not logical that if a section of
the CIA was controlling a false defector who was then diverted to
an assassination plot, that the defector, LHO, would be allowed by
his controllers and surveillance to engage in a second activity, nor
become involved with a teenage girl. Framing a patsy for a planned
murder was serious business; LHO was plainly ordered to New Orleans
to be sheep dipped as a CASTRO SYMPATHIZER to aid his image
as a commie killer. It is logical that this was of paramount importance
to the plotters, and they would not risk it being derailed. It is logical
that the plotters KNEW EVERY MOVE OF THIER PATSY, had him under
surveillance at all times, and knew all of his associates. There is no
record of his association with Mary, Vary and Ferrie in the mice and
monkey business.
Jack
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