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A Coup Against or By the State?
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Stan,

Many thanks for joining us and for your most thought-provoking contributions. Some comments follow.

Stan Wilbourne Wrote:The forces that killed JFK, I think, have ownership of the government - they control it - but they are not of it.

If I may paraphrase: Those forces govern in the broadest sense, but they are not to be found within the over-government as advertised.

Stan Wilbourne Wrote:Those that ordered the murder never came close to getting their hands dirty with the crime. After making the decision they didn't have to touch a thing.

These are the "Sponsors" of whom Evica and I have written. And yes, their hands are clean and uncalloused and stink of death.

Stan Wilbourne Wrote:This comes from Peter Dale Scott and is key, I think, to understanding the assassination:

Group 2 (Intelligence/Rightwing/Oil group) finds Group 3 (Anti-Castro Cubans) and give them direction emotionally and physically toward their already stong desires to get rid of this president. This group thinks they have it over Group 2 because the Attorney General is helping them with their cause against their enemy (Castro).

Group 3 is suspicious of Group 2 and sets up a patsy (same patsy created by Group 2) to not only be patsied but to blame the assassination on their other enemy. Two birds with one stone.

Here's where I have the temerity to part company with Professor Scott: I have great difficulty in ascribing to Group 3 the requisite resources (including that of nerve) to alter so significantly the Group 2 plan. Even if, out of a well-reasoned expectation of betrayal, they had tried to set up a multi-purpose patsy, their masters almost by definition would have discovered the plan and either quashed it or taken advantage of it.

In fact, such a move by Group 3 would have been all too predictable. There is a far better than even chance that Group 2 "Facilitators," as Evica and I label them, had plans in place to deal with just this contingency -- or perhaps they manipulated Group 3 into making the move so as to control it.

We also need to recognize that the anti-Castro Cubans, so driven by emotion and so unsophisticated in the grander schemes of life, must have been kept on a short leash. They would not have been given full responsibility for the "mechanical" aspects of the hit, for instance; the hunters of humans who fired on JFK were the best of their lot and beyond Gusano reach.


Stan Wilbourne Wrote:Murdering leaders who don't cooperate with the business model is all part of the plan.

"Business model" is a fine, eloquent, but incomplete description of that which was mortally threatened by JFK.

I submit that there was what I'll refer to as a spiritual motivation behind the assassination -- one that was inextricably linked to the economic profit/power maintenance motives.
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Messages In This Thread
A Coup Against or By the State? - by Mark Stapleton - 16-12-2008, 05:49 AM
A Coup Against or By the State? - by Peter Lemkin - 16-12-2008, 09:15 AM
A Coup Against or By the State? - by Peter Lemkin - 16-12-2008, 05:38 PM
A Coup Against or By the State? - by David Guyatt - 17-12-2008, 03:08 PM
A Coup Against or By the State? - by Charles Drago - 18-12-2008, 03:32 PM
A Coup Against or By the State? - by David Guyatt - 18-12-2008, 05:07 PM
A Coup Against or By the State? - by David Guyatt - 18-12-2008, 06:09 PM
A Coup Against or By the State? - by Harry Dean - 21-12-2008, 09:51 PM
A Coup Against or By the State? - by Harry Dean - 21-12-2008, 10:08 PM

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