Mr. Fetzer I have been to your site

[James H. Fetzer]

This is a rather odd response, Mark. I have explained where my research has taken me and you are suggesting where you think I should have come out. I have already mentioned James Douglass, JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE, as one source that agrees with me. Another is Noel Twyman, BLOODY TREASON. Both books, as I understand it, are about to appear. Others include Madeleine Duncan Brown, TEXAS IN THE MORNING, Billy Sol Estes, A TEXAS LEGEND, H. Howard Hunt's "Last Confession", and other sources. An extended list of the parties that appear to have been involved would include members the Dallas Police Department and the Dallas Sheriff's Department. My research supports the conclusion that shots were fired from six locations, none of which was the 6th floor "assassin's lair". And I am not simply talking about those who had motive. Since I have acknowledged that Israel may have had motive but does not appear to have been involved, I would have thought that much would be obvious. There are many ways all of this might have played out. I am talking about how it actually took place. I am getting the sense that you want to manipulate the situation on this thread. That does not interest me. I have answered your question. It appears that I was right when I thought you were seeking to impose your opinions upon me.

Mark,

The list of those involved appears to be substantial. The oil men feared he would cut the oil depletion allowance. Anti-Castro Cubans wanted revenge for the Bay of Pigs. The Joint Chiefs had concluded that he was part of the problem and not the solution to containing the expansion of international communism: he had not invaded Cuba (which they supported), he had signed an above ground test-ban treaty with the Soviet Union (which they opposed), and he was pulling our forces out of Vietnam (which they also opposed). He was threatening to shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces. Bobby was cracking down on the mob. He was going to reform or abolish the FED.

James, thanks for your reply.

This list you present is an (incomplete) list of those who had motive to want JFK dead, rather than a list of 'those involved', although I believe some had involvement at varying levels.

In a murder investigation, motive is one of the big 3 conditions, alongside means and opportunity, which need to be satisfactorily addressed before a conviction can be obtained. So motive is critically important if one is to proceed, and all who had motive should be looked at thoroughly, if one is to conduct an honest and complete investigation.

This is why I can't understand why you would arbitrarily rule a line beneath those you have listed, and not include Zionist Israel given what we now know about their pervasive influence throughout the institutions governing the US.

Texas oil certainly feared removal of the depletion allowance which JFK announced in early 1963 (but could not get through Congress). They also hated his left of centre, peace loving initiatives which they saw as the antithesis of what a good old commie hating, ass-kicking President should be. They were willing helpers with lots of money and power but not the architects, as I see it. Also, why then did they fail to assassinate Jimmy Carter when the depreciation allowance was scrapped during his administration?

'The mob' by which you seem to infer the Italian mafia, were under pressure, but this had been the case with previous administrations. If their natural response was to assassinate Presidents who had double crossed them, why didn't the nationwide syndicate led by Lucky Luciano attempt to assassinate FDR when he unleashed the Seabury investigation on them after he shrewdly obtained the support of mob controlled Tammany Hall for his nomination in 1932 by promising not to do that very thing?

Ditto for anti-Castro Cubans. Angry miscreants with zero access to the levers of real power have no place in a conspiracy of this complexity, except as ground level soldiers, to be readily sacrificed when circumstances dictate.

Apologies, but I'll have to make this post a two parter, as I have to attend to other things right now, and I want to examine the issue of motive further, in particular that of Zionist Israel (but not make it too long). To be continued......