Saucers of the Illuminati

[David Guyatt]

Is Mind Parasites the alternate title for Space Vampires? I read the latter but it didn't strike me as deeply Lovecraftian in any way, although I know Colin Wilson even authored his own version of the Necronomicon so he is presumably a fan of some sort. His Occult was very good imho, much better than his science fiction vampire story, but I could never finish his Philosopher's Stone.

On nephilim and angels, it's interesting to note the appearance of giants in Britain in the time set before the arrival of the Trojans in I think it was Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniæ, the Cyclops in Homer and Tartarus, "an abyss under Hades where the Titans were imprisoned, Latin, from Greek Tartaros, of obscure origin," which is probably cognate, imho, with the Tartaro giant cycle in Basque legend, see http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/basque/bl/index.htm ... There is a regal connexion, just as there is an aristocratic connexion in Peter Levenda's version of Andrija Puharich's The Nine.

I think Springmeier talks about this sort of unholy alliance between people and demonic forces in Bloodlines, doesn't he? Something about demonic alien vibrations becoming encoded in the genetics of certain families...

On the return to barbarity, I'm not sure Lovecraft saw it that way, he was probably more interested in the idea of escaping the confines of time. He managed to escape the real barbarity in any case, because he died in 1937, before we learned what modern people are fully capable of doing to one another. Or maybe I didn't understand David's point precisely.

(my bolding)

Helen, I know too little about Lovecraft to make real judgements about him, but there are others of the ilk of Crowley etc., who seem to positively wish to turn the clock back and recapture the "Old Ones". A serious Qabalist would eventually, and when sufficiently developed, have to tread through the paths of the Tree of Death, but it would be mighty dangerous work, for therein lies the path of despair and utter insanity. No one in their right mind would wish to meddle with the Collective Shadow, to bring Jungian terminology into this matter. But there are many out there who do believe they can harness these forces and, indeed, unleash them into our world. In this they have a will to power. In other words a very dangerous psychological disposition.

Escaping the confines of time can be advantageous but where you "visit" in that other place, that other timelessness, is also not without considerable danger - even while it can produce many lasting and very positive experiences. From what little I have read of Lovecraft, his ability to enter those other realms was said to be instinctive and intuitive. BUt I'm not convinced about that. The fact that he was drawn to the most negative and foul parts of it indicates something altogether different. And I have to wonder if the raging insanity that inflicted Lovecraft's father might have been passed along to his son? There is also that hint given in one of the two .pdf's you kindly posted that someone (unidentified) was passing Lovecraft extremely rare and exotic occult literature that focused his interest and abilities in distinctly negative directions. But I may, of course, be quite wrong about this. It's just that for me personally, I find it almost impossible to understand why anyone would voluntarily delve into these areas. If one had to use words to describe it, it would be "positive evil". Take, for example, Lovecraft's statement (which I extracted from the Cults of Cthulhu page 10:

Lovecraft also gives a brief description of the world after its
re-inheritance by the Great Old Ones:

“The time would be easy to know, for then mankind would
have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild beyond
good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all
men shouting and killing and revelling in joy. Then the
liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout
and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth
would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom.”2

And then we have Kenneth Grant's observation (on pages 23-4)

Perhaps Lovecraft himself has left us with a rather
unsatisfactory explanation of the true provenance of the
Cthulhu Mythos. Certainly, it appears to hold a great value for
those individuals currently practising ‘the Black Arts’. In the
words of Kenneth Grant, the present Outer Head of the O.T.O.,
“Lovecraft’s great contribution to the occult lay in his
demonstration — indirect as it may have been — of the
power so to control the dreaming mind that it is capable of
projection into other dimensions, and of discovering that
there are doors through which flow — in the form of
inspiration, intuition and vision —the genuine current of
creative magical consciousness.”11
Lovecraft’s occult experiences, disguised as fiction, reveal
the intrusion of forces in complete sympathy with those
archetypes and symbols brought through by Blavatsky and
Crowley, whilst in contact with astral entities ‘from beyond’.
He had become the receiver and transmitter of hidden
knowledge, though in Lovecraft’s case, the process was
intuitive rather than conscious. The internal self-division thus
engendered may have been the root cause of Lovecraft’s mental
and physical peculiarities; or it may have been that these very
traits, which set him apart from the rest of society, made him
the ideal focus for the channelling of these ultra-mundane
forces.

Were I to guess I would suggest that Lovecraft were deeply involved with someone or some others who had distinctly developed occult abilities and who focused his attention into certain obscure directions.

Changing the subject, I note what you say about the arrival of the rump of the Trojans in Britain - this being, I presume, after their defeat at the hands of the Achaeans and the subsequent sack of Troy. Although I appreciate that this derives from Greek mythology, I know that there is an occult tradition that this actually happened. However, Geoffrey of Monmouth's account is not believed by many scholars because it is argued that the idea of the Trojans coming to these isles was simply a means of elevating the royal bloodlines of those times. Are you aware o any other accounts besides Monmouth's? I have read it elsewhere where it has been stated as undeniable fact - but with no corroborating evidence given. I suspect that it is a Freemasonic continuation - and while many of these guys are often very good scholars, even so I would like to read other sources if they are available?