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Saucers of the Illuminati
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David Guyatt Wrote:The Dee angle is indeed interesting and Dee's "familiar", if you will, Edward Kelly, was the man chosen to do his "scrying" for him. Scrying is an old, almost lost term these days, and a better description than the one you wrote above would be difficult to find to describe it:

Quote:He starved himself at times and was very driven toward active participation in his dreams. There are several time periods he tuned into, one was Roman, another was European America before Columbus (Norse in New England), another was England in the 17th or 18th century with an emphasis on a literary personality there and I suspect he also tuned into Poe, whom he adored. There's also some library outside of time inhabited by a strange race of cone-shaped creatures who are capable of time travel and collect knowledge from all over the universe, with some connexion to Western Australia in the distant past. He did exert his imagination on a daily basis.

(my bolding)

Jung's autobiography Memories, Dreams and Refections details numerous similar experiences - which is not particularly surprising, I think. Jung developed a technique he called "Active Imagination" (rather than "active participation") for these experiences and it is close to dreaming but with free conscious will retained (otherwise known as a deep meditative state - as I briefly outlined earlier in this thread), and it was a technique my old Jungian teacher recommended I also use because I already had a fairly extensive ability in such things. Starving, or at least not having an empty stomach prior to undertaking these activities is a requisite - but something must be taken immediately afterwards.

On these occasions one gets to meet an entirely different class of people -- or perhaps "beings" is a more accurate term? Angel And sometimes you can get tangled up with an Archetype when you boldly step where no one has step-ped before (except someone probably has)... which is not something ever to be forgotten. :call:

If you consider Cthulhu as master of the Abyss, you can substitute the collective unconscious for Abyss with undifferentiated aspects of the archetypes, for example, the both good and evil gods or angels of the Yezidi pantheon, and Lovecraft is constantly seeking doorways or gates, access, to the treasure-trove of imagery in the collective unconscious. Some of his stories use the symbol of a silver key to unlock those gates to dreamland, and these particular stories tie in with his own explorations into his ancestry, he regresses to an ancestor in what he consistently refers to as Devonshire in England in the 17th century.

I was looking over some Lovecraft studies from the 1970s and realized I was mis-characterized him as a complete shut-in. He was making friends through his work in the Amateur Journalism associations and meeting young people, even going to amusement parks with groups of them. He also seems to have introduced the use of pseudonyms in those circles. One of his works is coauthored with Elizabeth Berkeley, a pseudonym, and he uses one of his own on that story as well, Theobald Lewis I believe. One of the authors in the amateur press whose stories and poems appear in the same issues as Lovecraft's work was named James Laurence Crowley, probably no relation. An older man named Arthur Goodenough also appears with Lovecraft and seems to have played the role of tutor to Lovecraft in some sense. They met in person as well. Lovecraft also travelled to Quebec and different parts of New England collecting lore and inspiration. The Colour out of Space was inspired by a story he received from a woman who specialized in New England heritage whom he visited on one of his trips. So it's not inconceivable he was in some way connected to one or several initiatory groups, either formally or informally.

It might also be significant that his stories became much better following his return from New York and the break-up of his marriage around 1925. One of his New York stories, He, involves magical time regressions and progressions in New York. He put his new-found inspiration down to a return to his native Providence, but New York seems to have broadened his cosmic view somehow, so perhaps there were teachers there who showed him new things.


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Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 06-05-2010, 01:29 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 06-05-2010, 03:00 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Keith Millea - 06-05-2010, 03:43 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Keith Millea - 07-05-2010, 03:59 AM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 07-05-2010, 02:09 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Keith Millea - 07-05-2010, 04:40 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 07-05-2010, 10:36 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 08-05-2010, 09:37 AM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 08-05-2010, 12:32 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 08-05-2010, 12:44 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 08-05-2010, 08:11 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 09-05-2010, 10:41 AM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 09-05-2010, 04:41 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 10-05-2010, 07:29 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 11-05-2010, 10:30 AM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Malcolm Pryce - 11-05-2010, 05:34 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Jan Klimkowski - 11-05-2010, 05:48 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 11-05-2010, 05:48 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Malcolm Pryce - 11-05-2010, 05:55 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 11-05-2010, 09:27 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Charles Drago - 11-05-2010, 10:24 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Magda Hassan - 12-05-2010, 01:21 AM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 12-05-2010, 09:11 AM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Charles Drago - 12-05-2010, 01:11 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 12-05-2010, 04:34 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Charles Drago - 12-05-2010, 06:18 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 16-05-2010, 11:56 AM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Charles Drago - 16-05-2010, 08:41 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Jan Klimkowski - 16-05-2010, 09:41 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 17-05-2010, 10:22 AM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Charles Drago - 17-05-2010, 01:07 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 17-05-2010, 01:19 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 17-05-2010, 05:54 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 17-05-2010, 06:07 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Charles Drago - 17-05-2010, 06:21 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 17-05-2010, 06:24 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 17-05-2010, 10:23 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 18-05-2010, 11:55 AM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 18-05-2010, 04:27 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 18-05-2010, 07:46 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 18-05-2010, 10:08 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 20-05-2010, 08:59 AM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 20-05-2010, 04:46 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Helen Reyes - 26-05-2010, 02:21 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Lauren Johnson - 14-11-2012, 06:51 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Charles Drago - 14-11-2012, 08:39 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Lauren Johnson - 14-11-2012, 09:03 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 27-06-2014, 12:42 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Tracy Riddle - 27-06-2014, 02:21 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Magda Hassan - 27-06-2014, 02:38 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 27-06-2014, 05:46 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by R.K. Locke - 27-06-2014, 07:31 PM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by David Guyatt - 28-06-2014, 08:48 AM
Saucers of the Illuminati - by Dawn Meredith - 28-06-2014, 01:44 PM
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