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Aussie PM dumped by own party
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Quote:Since you sound like you're an Australian, I'd like to ask how much the Jewish community used the press to whip up a furore against Rudd in the preceding months. I'm asking because I do not know.
Not Mark but I just want to comment on the newspaper polls which have been used as a justification to get rid of Rudd. There is no doubt that Murdoch is an ardent Zionist as are most of the main stream media anyway it being a pretty standard operating procedure. Murdoch played a pivotal role, through his media empire, in the removal of Whitlam. The opposition party while they were in power had done nothing, zilch, zip, on climate change and indeed many, perhaps most, in it were of the belief that there was no such thing as climate change and that it was all made up. Rudd comes along and the first thing he does is sign Kyoto. He sets up a ministry of water resources, very important here as we are the driest continent on earth. As part of his Keynesian response to the capitalist meltdown he institutes a stimulus package which involves free and or very highly subsided insulation, solar panels, water tanks installed into homes and schools and workplaces. Millions in subsidies to the car companies to build hybrids. Alternative energy was on the agenda again. The government pushed very hard at Copenhagen to get it all passed which included the ETS. There is no way in the known universe that Rudd could be said to not be pushing hard for the environment especially compared to the other party. However, the ETS scheme did not get through parliament. The opposition party had a change of leadership. The previous leader was supportive of the ETS because he is a merchant banker and the ETS is a wet dream for them as carbon trading is just a new market for the players to make a motza from their new ponzi scheme. The new leader doesn't even believe there is such a thing as climate change. This obstruction by the opposition could have been used as a reason to dissolve parliament and call a new election but the Rudd government didn't and they almost certainly would have won had they done it at the time. Most people have no idea about the ETS but want to do something positive for climate change. A carbon tax would satisfy most people and satisfies Rudd, simple and straightforward, but that doesn't have the support of big business or the finance/speculative sector. Same with the resources super profits tax. Everyone loves the idea that companies will pay something at long last and if it is in the millions even better. What hasn't been explained very well is that this tax replaces royalties, which mining companies have to pay regardless if they find anything or not and if the mining company doesn't find what they are looking for they don't pay tax and may get a refund. But even this is unacceptable to the mining companies and this part hasn't been made clear to the public. Much of the polling has centered on these two issues but the polls themselves have been very biased, of the 'Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" variety and it is these newspaper polls which are being used to drive the whole discussion. There was a by-election in NSW, the most populous state, the weekend before. The former Labor member resigned due to corruption issues. There is no doubt that ruling NSW Labor party is truly fucking awful, brutal, nasty and deeply corrupt and sucks big time and the only reason they are even in is because the other party has even deeper and more corrupt ties to big business though they may well win the next state election because it is so bad for so long here. The post by-election results indicated to the Labor party that they would lose an election as things stood and this also played a role in the events of two days ago but all the ground work was done by the newspaper polls. I don't think Rudd was a Tony Blair in any way. Blair had total MSM support. They just couldn't sell brand Blair anymore because he was comprehensively rejected by the British people having been well and truly fucked over big time by him and Nulab way too many times. The MSM here supported the previous Liberal party like the UK MSM supported Nulab. Nulab took much of their style from our Hawke government. While NSW Labor is truly putrid Federal Labor had made most peoples lives better but has pissed off the mining companies and other big business interests as too much was being spent of people and business was being asked to contribute their share. The poll results are a result of the framing of the polls. The media covers the poll results but not the framing of the polls. The media/poll cycle feeds itself and it becomes self fulfilling. Rudd had his own limitations as it related to his party. He didn't 'consult' well with faction leaders and some were pissed off greatly. No doubt they were involved in framing the poll questions too and would have talked to their friends in the media to help get the ball rolling. The main unions behind this are known historically to be greatly compromised by their links with the CIA. Bob Hawke, a former Labor prime minister, and a direct beneficiary of Whitlam's removal had his start in the union movement. Hawke, the Rhodes scholar, son of a penniless preacher and ardent Zionist and now multi-millionaire businessman was there on the steps of parliament house calming the seething masses and unions from taking any action themselves in restoring their elected government. Hawke was always a totally willing lackey of the US. Hawke and Bill Kelty instituted a policy over the union movement called 'The Accord'. Basically the union leadership aligned with business interests and put the lid on any industrial action, kept wages and conditions down and ushered in the privatization and deregulation required by business. With the exception of a few the unions in Australia are very right wing and non-militant and this is one of the legacies of Hawke. This is also reflected in the Labor party because of their traditional links to the union movement. Rudd is not a union man. All Labor leaders since Whitlam have promised never to be anything remotely like him or his party as it is well understood that what little he did it scared the bejesus out of capital. Whitlam wasn't even from the left-wing. Just independent minded, educated, patrician and Kennedy-esque. Rudd was not like Whitlam either but he still thought he could run his own show. It is interesting though that Rudd gov was apparently more sympathetic to the Palestinian cause than has been the case of any leader here for decades. He also took a strong stand on the illegal use of Australian passports in the Dubai murder and expelled a Mossad agent (but no doubt left others in place). His replacement Gillard's only public comment during the totally disproportionate Gaza bloodbath by the IDF was "Israel has the right to defend itself". Make of it what you will.
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Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 23-06-2010, 02:42 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 23-06-2010, 03:00 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 23-06-2010, 05:46 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 24-06-2010, 07:04 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 24-06-2010, 09:22 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 24-06-2010, 09:25 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 24-06-2010, 09:48 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 24-06-2010, 10:42 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 24-06-2010, 12:06 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 24-06-2010, 01:00 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 24-06-2010, 01:43 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Helen Reyes - 24-06-2010, 02:58 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 24-06-2010, 03:58 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Helen Reyes - 24-06-2010, 04:16 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 24-06-2010, 04:59 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 24-06-2010, 05:05 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 24-06-2010, 05:31 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Helen Reyes - 24-06-2010, 05:42 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 25-06-2010, 12:28 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 25-06-2010, 09:23 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 25-06-2010, 09:53 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Helen Reyes - 25-06-2010, 04:31 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 26-06-2010, 01:07 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 26-06-2010, 01:12 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 26-06-2010, 01:17 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 26-06-2010, 01:36 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 26-06-2010, 01:46 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 26-06-2010, 05:02 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 26-06-2010, 05:03 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 26-06-2010, 05:17 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 26-06-2010, 05:47 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 26-06-2010, 05:52 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 26-06-2010, 07:45 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 27-06-2010, 02:16 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Helen Reyes - 30-06-2010, 10:10 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-06-2010, 02:56 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 30-06-2010, 03:00 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 01-07-2010, 01:04 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Helen Reyes - 01-07-2010, 08:20 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 01-07-2010, 09:31 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 09-07-2010, 06:24 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 09-07-2010, 06:25 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Presland - 09-07-2010, 08:56 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 09-07-2010, 02:54 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 09-07-2010, 03:12 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 09-07-2010, 09:06 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 10-07-2010, 02:27 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 10-07-2010, 03:06 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 10-07-2010, 10:19 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Ed Jewett - 20-07-2010, 04:30 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 22-07-2010, 02:40 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 06-08-2010, 12:14 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 06-08-2010, 02:25 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 06-08-2010, 03:16 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 21-08-2010, 01:49 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 21-08-2010, 02:35 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 21-08-2010, 02:36 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 28-08-2010, 03:42 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 31-08-2010, 07:51 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 04-09-2010, 03:41 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 05-09-2010, 01:45 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 24-02-2012, 08:28 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 24-02-2012, 05:28 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Lemkin - 24-02-2012, 06:56 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 24-02-2012, 11:52 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 25-02-2012, 03:13 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Lemkin - 25-02-2012, 07:25 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 25-02-2012, 09:46 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 25-02-2012, 12:50 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Lemkin - 27-02-2012, 07:04 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 27-02-2012, 07:24 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Lemkin - 27-02-2012, 07:29 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 27-02-2012, 07:37 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Lemkin - 27-02-2012, 08:16 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 27-02-2012, 08:33 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 28-02-2012, 01:50 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 28-02-2012, 07:47 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-05-2012, 04:05 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-05-2012, 04:08 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-05-2012, 04:11 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-05-2012, 04:15 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-05-2012, 04:19 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-05-2012, 04:24 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-05-2012, 04:40 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 11-07-2012, 12:05 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 09-04-2013, 01:44 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by David Guyatt - 09-04-2013, 02:12 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 09-04-2013, 02:41 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 26-06-2013, 10:53 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Anthony Thorne - 27-06-2013, 12:24 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 27-06-2013, 01:28 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Lemkin - 27-06-2013, 06:11 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 27-06-2013, 12:50 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 27-06-2013, 08:26 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 28-06-2013, 01:14 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Anthony Thorne - 28-06-2013, 12:02 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 29-06-2013, 04:09 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 29-06-2013, 11:41 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Lemkin - 19-07-2013, 08:18 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Anthony Thorne - 19-07-2013, 09:37 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 20-07-2013, 12:58 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 04-08-2013, 02:25 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 04-08-2013, 05:16 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 01-10-2013, 08:42 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 14-09-2015, 01:45 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by David Guyatt - 14-09-2015, 01:50 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Presland - 14-09-2015, 03:08 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by David Guyatt - 14-09-2015, 03:44 PM

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