28-06-2010, 05:17 AM
Jack White Wrote:Dawn Meredith Wrote:I probably need my head slapped for asking this...but I think if would be interesting to have a discussion here, on the relevent section of the forum, as to what DPF mebers believe re 9-11.
1. Did no planes hit what we are told they hit?
2. What happened to the planes?
3 Were there just no planes at all?
4.. Where are the passangers?
5. where is T Carter's friend?
6. Where is Barbara Olsen.?
I will start by saying that this is a red herring issue in my view. I beleive the same re alteration of the Z film. It is what Vince Salandria called "microanalysis." We HAVE conspiracy in both cases regardless of the answers to the questions above.
And I am looking for answers NOT long videos and links.
I just do not have the time. Work is overwhlemingly busy and I have to allocate my time most carefully.
So links will be considered - (by me only)- non responsive. I am just looking for what people think and why they think it.
Merci,
Dawn
1. Did planes hit?
It is more accurate to say DID THE SPECIFIED HIJACKED AIRLINERS HIT?
It is possible that remote controlled flying aircraft were involved, but NOT
hijacked 757s or 767s.
2. What happened to the planes?
The best thinking at present is that the flights did not exist per the
official story, and that "flights carrying purported passengers" landed
in Cleveland, where passengers were diverted.
3. Were there no planes at all?
There were no hijacked 757s or 767s involved in crashes. This is a
separate issue of whether there were planes or no planes.
4. Where are the passengers?
Many of the passengers appear to be fictitious. The ones who were
real may have been flown to a NASA hanger in Cleveland, where
they were put aboard a different plane which has disappeared.
5. Where is T. Carter's friend?
Dead...somewhere not known.
6. Where is Barbara Olson?
Dead...somewhere not known.
Some of these questions have no known answers.
Jack
Part of this line of questioning is IMO part of the 'game' the PTB cat is playing on we Pleb 'mice'. A few of them know the answers, yet refuse to enlighten the rest of us, or to provide a real investigation[s]. Much of this line is to make researchers look like paranoid fools before the average citizen and to be made fun of by the controlled media propaganda machinery. As far as I know, Jack, there is evidence for one flight landing at Cleveland - very good evidence - but as you mention, all trace of the other plane involved has been covered up. There is good evidence that few of the alleged hijackers were on the flights they supposed boarded. At least one of the planes that 'crashed' has evidence of still being in service. My best guess at investigating this magic show [just as was Dallas - though a different sort and at a time when the technology was not so advanced] is that: Real planes [normal planes departed, but might have been either switched or remote controlled at some time after they left. As to who was on them - both as passengers and alleged highjackers has not been established. Why, I ask, is the govt. refusing to prove the planes they say were invoved were the recovered 'crashed' planes?! Smells bad! It is my guess that the phone calls were all of mostly faked to set up the scenario. Yes, planes, drones, planes not under the control of any human in them or missiles disguised as planes hit the WTC I and II and the Pentagon, but the official version is a fiction in many important ways. Why at the Pentagon are we denied the vidotapes and why did the antiaircraft batteries not fire. Even more mysterious is the complete lack of defense against any of the 'planes' or objects heading into buildings and fields. Shanksville is a complete lie. Whatever it was was shot down. Missile likely hit Pentagon. Plane sized objects hit WTC towers, but if they were original flights unknown. If yes, why hide the evidence? In any case this matter is being used to divide the research community and to attempt to make fools of others. As in Dallas and so many other, we are not the ones who should be investigating this, it is the government, but as in both cases it seems they were complicit and/or blackmailed in covering it up and keeping the Big Lie alive, we are left with no other choice if we want to know the truth. They have the physical evidence and subpeona power, etc. All we have is our curiosity, logic, morality and wits - four things they do not.
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