Does computer worm "stuxnet" attack Iranian Nuclear Program?

[Peter Lemkin]

No surprises there, but the reminder and details appreciated. Brings up the possibility of of internecine wars between multinationals v. states and/or other multinationals. BND/Germany might not take too kindly to their main supplier and a big bread-winner being hurt by this worm....Siemens for sure will not! The nastiness could spread.....likely will. The future of dirty intel tricks and ops seems rosy.

I agree.

This multinational v state cyberspace warfare is in fact quite close to the future sketched, or perhaps narcotically channelled through a systematic derangement of the senses, by William Gibson in his 1980s Sprawl/cyberpunk trilogy.

As I'm sure most of the regulars on this Forum are well aware the distinction between Companies [especially, but not exclusively, large 'multinational' ones] and 'the Company' and other 15-odd intelligence (sic) agencies has always been a blurry one - or rather a marriage of convenience for the Oligarchy and a marriage of nightmares, assassinations, overthrows, dirty tricks, covert ops, et al. for the rest of the Planet. Coca-Cola and Hilton have LONG been used for intel work/cover. Nothing need be said about proprietaries or on-paper-only companies. Nugan Hand and BCCI and other banks were really intel run and run for intel. United Fruit in Honduras; Anaconda Copper and ITT in Chile; Oil companies in more overthrows, coups and wars than one has fingers and toes. Iraq in 1958 is a classic example, as are the current wars in Iraq (yet again) and Afghanistan. Drug Cartels are in bed with or run by [in some cases] intel services. Defense Contractors have their 'own' internal security/spies that hardly can be separated from the 'National' ones. Industrial spying within a country and country v. country is nothing new, but with the new technologies happening at warp speeds now. A once ugly game seems set to get only uglier as we move toward a Corporate fascism trying to 'unite' the world under their domination [top-down 'globalization']...while the People of world seek bottom-up globalization of a completely different kind!....and an end to wars, spying, overthrows, assassinations, bankster ops, etc. This battle of class warfare is as old as civilization, but seems to be at a deciding moment in human history. Personally, I think the next FEW decades will set the stage for the next millenia - Peace, or nothing but Pieces. Sadly, the resistance movement while more aware and armed with facts then ever before, seems immobilized and unorganized. May that change SOON! But, back to the original point....if companies like Siemans or others of that size take it upon themselves or their sponsors to carry out retaliatory actions [of which they are perfectly capable!] things are really going to get even crazier than they are now....and we now live in a very crazy and immoral world - most countries and larger companies/banks run by thieves and sociapaths. Enron bankrupted California to a large extent, and got away with it due to the Governator. The recent Bank 'bailout' was the largest transfer of money from the poor and middleclass to the ultra-rich in history; Dallas and 911, IMO, and all in between were just softening the world up for what a few have had in mind since the Enlightenment put a crimp in their 'style'....... We now have private armies; private spies with capabilities of national ones; private companies with assets and power greater than all but a few countries [and most interlocking via boards of directors et al.] - and the free movement of [and concentration of] capital; with growing restrictions on the free movement and freedoms of people, etc.

Neo-Feudalism anyone?! Serf's up!