06-01-2009, 04:13 AM
Myra Bronstein Wrote:What on earth did that corrupt murderous bastard LBJ do to earn your confidence that he wasn't amongst the corrupt murderous bastards that set up the hit on JFK?
Myra, in a story as complex and riddled with disinformation as is the JFK conspiracy, we must be at pains to define our terms with the ultimate precision.
Again, what do you mean by "set up"?
Did LBJ coordinate the logistics? Did he conceive the drama? Did he have the expertise to oversee the hit on the operational level?
Or are you suggesting that he set the plan in motion? That he was the authority from which all else was released?
Do you view LBJ as a Sponsor? A False Sponsor and/or Facilitator?
I'm not trying to be difficult, believe me. My own learning curve, steep and daunting, is far from being fully traversed.
Johnson was a hillbilly thug with a CEO's brain and a steroid addict's balls. To the real Sponsors of the hit, he was an expendable simpleton to be used and abused.
LBJ was danced through a pre-hit cotillion in which he was seduced into the plot, encouraged to think he was giving orders, and then, on the night before the Sponsors' Christmas, he was told how the real world worked.
Landslide Lyndon was a cowering wreck on the 22nd, and forever after he obeyed orders. The threat of exposure hung heavily over him, and he facilitated the cover-up out of fear.
I'm reminded of Don Corleone's insight: "Tattaglia's a pimp. He never could've out-fought Santino. But I didn't know until this day that it was Barzini all along. ... "
LBJ as Tattaglia. And as Barzini ... ?
Myra Bronstein Wrote:Ok who gave the go order?
The process of elimination gets rid of the lion's share of the False Sponsors proffered over the years -- and the majority of that group emerged from the guilty-as-hell Facilitator level of the conspiracy.
So who's left? Who's Barzini?
I wish I knew. Because if and when we identify the true Sponsors, we will have identified not the individuals, but the forces that have controlled this system since its inception.
Evica described them as the "masters who were above Cold War differences."
LBJ would have accessed their homes -- if he had been invited, which he wasn't -- via the servants' entrance.
Myra Bronstein Wrote:I'm glad we're working on a model. I think it's important to define that.
I'm glad, too, and I share your sense of the importance of establishing a mutually acceptable sense of structure.
Without it, no real progress past this point can be made.
Let's keep hashing this out, and let's not be afraid to do so with nearly as much passion as intellectual rigor.