Fetzer/Burton Moon Landing Debate Finale

[James H. Fetzer]

This is in response to Presland's post, which I take to be endorsing Dawson. But it is appropriate even if that was not his intent.

Jump height

http://en.metapedia....wiki/Moon_Hoax:

Assuming astronaut's body weight of 85 kg, his total weight including the space suit would be 170 kg, so he could achieve jump heights of 2 m. But the maximum jump height shown by an Apollo astronaut was 0.42 m,[1] which is five times less.[1]

Peter Dawson says: "If I'm 85kg and can jump 2ft vertically, on earth, and you weigh me down with another 85kg, I am not going to be able to jump 1ft in the air. It is faulty reasoning to think so. I'd be lucky to jump 6 inches if you asked my muscles to lift 2 times the weight they are accustomed to lifting."

But if you double/triple/. . . the weight, you would still be able to jump six times greater than on Earth. This is going to hold across the board, since the gravitation is only 1/6 of what it is on Earth. The astronaut jumps are fake. This is not rocket science, but someone is trying awfully hard to peddle a bill of goods.

Visibility of stars from the lunar surface

Peter Dawson says: "The sun was always shining when the astronauts were on the moon. That is, it was daytime. Do we expect to see stars on earth at daytime? No? Then why should we expect astronauts to see stars, or cameras to record stars when looking skyward during the lunar daytime?"

Neil Armstrong said: "We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics."

They can't both be right, but they can both be wrong.

http://en.metapedia....wiki/Moon_Hoax:

"On the Moon, the sky is black—even during the day—and the stars are always visible.[1][1]"

Jump height

If a man can jump 2 foot vertically on earth, and 12 foot vertically under 1/6th the gravity - which I'm guessing is roughly the rationale being used - it doesn't follow that if you double the man's weight he should be able to jump half that height.

If I'm 85kg and can jump 2ft vertically, on earth, and you weigh me down with another 85kg, I am not going to be able to jump 1ft in the air. It is faulty reasoning to think so. I'd be lucky to jump 6 inches if you asked my muscles to lift 2 times the weight they are accustomed to lifting.

Visibility of stars from the lunar surface

The sun was always shining when the astronauts were on the moon. That is, it was daytime. Do we expect to see stars on earth at daytime? No? Then why should we expect astronauts to see stars, or cameras to record stars when looking skyward during the lunar daytime?

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Why should I trust the reasoning of people who can't figure this sort of thing out for themselves before they submit it to us as evidence that the moon landings were faked?

I am sorry, but to issue these complaints when it is he who can't figure this sort of thing out for himself before he submits it to us is more than slightly embarrassing. I can't wait to read his attempt to "explain away" the splashdown and the 18-day quarantine!