20-11-2010, 09:12 PM
(This post was last modified: 20-11-2010, 09:19 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
To some extent it seems an argument over semantics [such as 'mastermind], but to a large extent it is as Charles puts it: LBJ was, IMO definitely in the plot by the day OF [and likely in the plot some weeks before - or in the 'know]....and was visible leader, mover and shaker of the cover-up after, But he was NOT the ONLY person involved on a high level and I agree with Charles, LBJ was takin' orders from others......or not missing an opportunity too good to miss [as he likely rationalized it]. He chose no shooters; organized no teams; paid no money for it; he was just ready, willing, well-placed and able to let it happen and cover it up afterwards. Hoover is another who likely knew some weeks to months before and did a LIHOP [and grand cover-up] for similar reasons of his own. Neither were masterminds in this....they took orders, IMO more than made them [except to some of their immediate flunkies] and in their own limited [!] agencies/offices. The office of President is not supreme and that was made abundantly clear too all [including LBJ] on 11/22/63. Even his 'they're gonna kill us all' remark may well have been that there was more fire and closer fire to HIM than he had been told or hinted about - even the location might not have been revealed to him.....likely not.
Dawn, I think Marina was instructed [by persons unknown, perhaps even Lee?] to take some photos in the backyard (part of the pre-set-up set-up)- BUT the photos we see are NOT and provably not the ones she took - not any parts of them - they were done by others as composits. That said, Marina, though I like to be sympathetic to her, still keeps many secrets about her past in Russia and her knowledge of events up to and shortly after the assassination. That she has come over to 'our side' now is lovely; more lovely would be if she told the whole truth she knows.....but is both likely afraid and not wanting to show how she lied by commission and omission so many times - whatever the motive, and however much the motive might ameliorate or
mitigate.....We can only hope she will or will leave it in some form after her death.She was used and abused, as well; but she is also tricking history of some very important truths!!!
Dawn, I think Marina was instructed [by persons unknown, perhaps even Lee?] to take some photos in the backyard (part of the pre-set-up set-up)- BUT the photos we see are NOT and provably not the ones she took - not any parts of them - they were done by others as composits. That said, Marina, though I like to be sympathetic to her, still keeps many secrets about her past in Russia and her knowledge of events up to and shortly after the assassination. That she has come over to 'our side' now is lovely; more lovely would be if she told the whole truth she knows.....but is both likely afraid and not wanting to show how she lied by commission and omission so many times - whatever the motive, and however much the motive might ameliorate or
mitigate.....We can only hope she will or will leave it in some form after her death.She was used and abused, as well; but she is also tricking history of some very important truths!!!
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
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