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Jesse Ventura's JFK Conspiracy Program
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Wow! I can see that I have really pissed you off. My point has been that this program carries public understanding several giant steps forward in relation to what it has been told in the past: the official shot sequence is a fantasy; crucial witnesses were never called; his own wife believes he didn't do it but is in fear of her life for talking about it; there are multiple indications that a series of presidents who would never have attained that office but for the death of their predecessor were involved in the assassination or the cover-up; that one of the actual participants has broken his silence; and that a leading apologist for the official account can't appreciate that the reasons he has given for why Lee might not have made a reliable assassin were also ones that would have made him an ideal patsy! In my opinion, this is a great -- even tremendous -- advance in what the public has been told. Which remains the case even if you think there is EVEN MORE to it in terms of those who were at an even higher level in the background as SPONSORS, where it is your take that this is all about the FACILITATORS and the MECHANICS. But as I see it, you are confounding the graduate seminars with the undergraduate curriculum, where if the public doesn't gain insight and understanding about the FACILITATORS and the MECHANICS it will never be in the position to qualify for more advanced research. If that offends you, so be it, because I think you are putting the cart before the horse and that your objections to this program are not well-founded. You are entitled to your opinion, which I respect, but that does not mean you are right and I am wrong. For reasons like those I have explained, I think that the opposite is the case.

Charles Drago Wrote:
James H. Fetzer Wrote:Le me parallel your Sponsor/Facilitator/Mechanic model with a Deep
Politics/Politics/Executioner model, which is primarily an alternative
language for saying the same thing.

Not really, but valid and interesting on its own merits.


James H. Fetzer Wrote:To bring the public from concern about the Executioners to the Politicians, such as LBJ, Nixon, Ford and Bush, is, in my opinion, a great advance.

Just how does inflating LBJ's role from Facilitator to Sponsor/mastermind amount to an advance of anything except the coverup?


James H. Fetzer Wrote:It would be wonderful if the public could ultimately become informed of the Deep Political aspects as well, but focusing attention on the Political aspects is a tremendous advance.

Just how does inflating LBJ's role from Facilitator to Sponsor/mastermind advance anthing except confusion, misdirection, and the mission of the true Sponsors' bodyguard of lies?




What is it about the mislabeling of LBJ as a Sponsor of the assassination that is NOT massivelly negative?




What is it about the mislabeling of LBJ as a Sponsor of the assassination that encourages the public's understanding of the hit's "Political specs"?


James H. Fetzer Wrote:And Lyndon was the "pivotal player" because he was the one who had the driving ambition to become president, knew all of the players, and was instrumental in bringing "The Big Event"[.]

LBJ benefited from the assassination, LBJ knew some of the players, LBJ was instrumental in the coverup. Your brushstroke is too broad, Jim.


James H. Fetzer Wrote:LBJ even sent his chief administrative assistant, Cliff Carter, to Dallas to make sure that all of the arrangements for the assassination were in place and where "Mac" Wallace, his personal hit-man, appears to have been involved as one of the shooters.

That's one hell of a "mastermind" you've got there, Jim -- sending well-known close personal associates to his own backyard crime scene.


James H. Fetzer Wrote:I expect more of those of greater intellect and deeper understanding, if I may; and for that reason I am profoundly bothered by your reception.

Back at you, my friend.

Right back at you.

Charles
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Jesse Ventura's JFK Conspiracy Program - by James H. Fetzer - 21-11-2010, 03:18 PM

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