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Blimey, Buffoon Berlusconi's Bad
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:Without casting aspersions, I would just like to note, that many of you who were quite 'negative' on the Wikileaks leaks are making good use of them - implying [to me] that they were not quite as insignificant as you first postulated.....

I'd agree that the ultimate source[s] and significance of the Wikileaks revelations are not yet known [I'd guess it will be many months until we have a clear idea [and I fear the demise of Assange in the interim], but we are a cynical lot and sometimes TOO cynical for our own good...or the good of the betterment of the world polity......:itsme:

Peter - my view is unchanged:

Quote:This material has been through several middlemen, including most notably Assange and Wikileaks, and then three MSM organs - Der Spiegel, NYT and The Guardian.

It is clear that either Wikileaks or the MSM organs have referred certain cables to the national security state and abided by government requests for non-publication or redaction. (Eg the cable about North Korea that has been withheld at the reqeust of the Obama adminstration.)

So, the original leak has been heavily diluted before any publcation.

Then add to the mix the fact that:

i) these are SECRET not TOP SECRET cables;

ii) the natural tendency of diplomats to talk in diplomatic lanaguage (even if this is often bitchy and gossipy);

iiii) the tendency of career civil servants, ambassadors, the military etc to adhere to the group mind think around matters such as the reality of Al Qaeda and the danger of the Iranian nuclear programme.

The ultimate consequence is the current damp squib: diverting, but of no threat to the Volkland Security elites and their bogus War on Terror.

However, the wikileaks information is being feverishly spun by MSM to serve elite interests.

I'm happy to provide a little counterbalance and highlight the stench of moral hypocrisy evident in these leaked diplomatic cables.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Blimey, Buffoon Berlusconi's Bad - by Paul Rigby - 12-10-2009, 07:26 PM
Blimey, Buffoon Berlusconi's Bad - by Jan Klimkowski - 01-12-2010, 06:35 PM
Blimey, Buffoon Berlusconi's Bad - by Ed Jewett - 09-02-2011, 02:25 AM
Blimey, Buffoon Berlusconi's Bad - by David Healy - 31-03-2013, 08:12 PM

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