15-01-2009, 12:23 AM
Mark Stapleton Wrote:David Healy Wrote:[quote=Peter Lemkin]
Fact: between 1936-45, 5.6 and 6.2 million Jews were literally erased, their ashes rose over and now mixed with the very soil you stand upon, European soil (a scene, never before seen displaying mans inhumanity to his fellow man). That'll never happen again, to the JEWS anyway!
And their battle to survive has not ceased...
I thought you said in post #96 that you were ending your participation in the Israel/Gaza discussion, David.
With some misgivings about engaging in debate with you, I must point out the plain fact that while the Jews were victims of a massive genocide in Europe, it wasn't the Palestinians who were the perpetrators. I can't see the justice in the Palestinians paying the price for past injustices inflicted upon the Jews. I think this is what Peter was trying to say but I stand to be corrected.
Further, the current genocide in Gaza is hardly a battle for Israel's survival. As the regional superpower, and the only nation in the ME with nuclear capacity, I would think their survival is guaranteed. The current genocidal campaign in Gaza actually threatens Israel's long term security.
I don't expect you to see that. You seem to have the Zionist propaganda line wired into your head.
Frankly Mark, what I agreed to was ending pissing matches with those that can't quite understand the difference between propaganda, disinformation and PR...
What you think and what the Israelis think as to their survival guarantees, are probably two different things.... At this point in time, I suspect the folks of Gaza would probably agree with me.... I damn sure know Hamas knows the difference (and right now, they're the ONLY ones that know that count)....
As an Irishman who supported the IRA, as well as a card carrying member of Vietnam Vets AGAINST the War, a member too in the NRA, called a Zionist, humfh! LMFAO!
But I do know biblical history, and pounded a street or two in the area.... You're a hoot!