Big Tobacco's Conspiracy To Hide Health Risks & Deceive, They Knew & Documents Show They Knew - Here

[Peter Lemkin]

I pushed the "Post Quick Reply" button, which to my knowledge does not start a new thread. And I did address your point, which is the fraudulent claim that Big Tobacco supposedly conspired to hide the risks of smoking. This is patently ridiculous on its face, because the vast majority of the "research" was done by the anti-smoker American Cancer Society and/or its puppets at the National Institutes of Health. Big Tobacco had no capacity whatsoever to conceal it, because their enemies did it, and their media accomplices eagerly spread their lies, while ruthlessly censoring the truth. The fact that those 50-plus studies of HPV and lung cancer have been concealed from the public is rock-solid proof of who has done all the concealing.

And DUDE, I'll be happy to debate you point for point about the supposed health risks of tobacco. Your "graduate degree in Public Health and Toxicology and tobacco toxicity" isn't worth a damn. People in your field are rewarded for their ideological purity, not their scientific competence.

Your new here and have zero [it would seem] idea of my ideology. I'm a rebel and was in Grad School too. But I know that the Tobacco Industry, the USG regulators, the NIH and many others knew the dangers of tobacco for over a century and hid it...and you seem to still want to hide it. I was rewarded for nothing in my studies except whatever competance I had as a student; and had no research grants from anyone, nor with any agenda but truthful science and public health at Yale and UCLA. You're coming here with a huge chip on your shoulder and not making any friends....but it seems not to be your intention. By the way, why are you so upset about all this?....what's your motive [pure truth?] or is someone rewarding or paying you? Belong to a PR firm? Have any connections to the tobacco industry?...or just a big smoker who doesn't like it controlled? Have you looked at the full documents summarized in the first post of this thread? If so, then you have little respect for peer reviewed science. Let me guess you don't believe in human induced climate change and most assassinations were done by lone nuts; the government and large corporations know what is best for us and always look out for our interests...if we'd only stay out of they way and do as they say...all will be just fine.....am I close?joystick [The name is Peter, not 'Dude'...a crude Americanism - while anger has its place at times, you're certainly are coming here with a truckload and dumping it on anyone in sight]...but it is your right and perogative. However, to me this is like going over the driver didn't shoot JFK all over again. The issue of tobacco and cancer [and a HOST of other diseases] is extablished fact....not IMO open to question....unless someone has an agenda to do so. [Doubt for doubt sake and the benefit of the Corporations who profit by death, lies and destruction of our health and the health of the planet. Gonna support GM crops and Montsanto next?....maybe this isn't your forum of 'closest fit'.