21-01-2011, 04:09 AM
Well, I don't understand your skepticism. There is nothing all that "curious" about the story. There were many social events at the Murchison's, especially when Edgar was in Dallas on his way to the Del Mar. I know another person who was also very close to Madeleine and knows the story and that the event occurred. Just what was there about Nigel Turner's "The Guilty Men" that you question? All these pieces fit into a complex puzzle, which, when you have enough pieces, resembles Lyndon Baines Johnson. And Steven died of bone marrow cancer. He made the mistake of making a claim against the estate seeking recognition of his status as LBJ's son and paid a heavy price for it. I had more than 100 conversations with Madeleine and I most certainly believe in her.
Dawn Meredith Wrote:James H. Fetzer Wrote:Yes. And Madeleine told me that he (Nixon) had been driven out to the home of Clint Murchison the night before the assassination by a local Republican leader, who worked in the same building where Madeleine was a young advertising executive. Others who were present included J. Edgar Hoover, Clyde Tolson, H.L. Hunt, George Brown (of Brown & Root), and John J. McCloy, whom Lyndon would later appoint as a member of The Warren Commission. LBJ showed up late in the evening and these heavy-hitters disappeared into a board room. After 15-20 minutes, the meeting broke up and Lyndon strode over to her. She expected him to whisper sweet-nothings in her ear, but instead he told her, in a hateful tone of voice, that after tomorrow he wasn't going to have to put up with embarrassment from those goddamn Kennedy boys any longer. Six weeks later, during a rendezvous at the Driskill Hotel in Austin, on New Years' Eve, when she confronted him with rumors, rampant in Dallas at the time, that he had been involved, since no one stood to gain more personally from the assassination, he blew up at her and told her that the oil boys and the CIA had decided that JFK had to be taken out. I mention this, not because the story may not be familiar, but because I heard it from Madeleine herself. The final segment of "The Men Who Killed Kennedy", Part 9, "The Guilty Men", was devoted to this matter and included corroborating testimony from the chauffeur who drove Edgar to the meeting and others who were present at the time. It is therefore unsurprising in the extreme that this segment has been suppressed (along with "The Smoking Guns" and also "The Love Affair").
Albert Doyle Wrote:So one can imagine if Nixon had heard of a plot to kill Kennedy or knew of one afterwards that there would be no love lost nor would Nixon be compelled to rush forward and report it. And that's without considering even worse possibilities.
This is a very curious story. Ms. Brown also said that the party was written up in the Dallas paper but the story was never found. Jay Harrsion put a lot of time into trying to find this write up without success. (Jack, Jim can you address this point?) Then there is the employee who worked for Murchinson who was also on THe Guilty Men and said the party occurred and named the guests backing up Ms. Brown's claim. (I had forgotten about the driver until just reading it) Yet LBJ was also giving a speech hours away. I wondered if his twin like cousin was perhaps standing in.
All in all this story is pretty incredible and difficult to believe. I too found Ms. Brown credible when I met her in Dallas in 1998. And charming. BUT I have always wondered if she loved the man so much why did she spill so much of his alleged dirty laundry? In part this may be answered by the way their son was treated. It is even speculated that his death in his 20s may have not been natural.
A curious mess, indeed.
Dawn