05-02-2011, 11:22 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-02-2011, 03:02 PM by Peter Presland.)
Oops - another apology. I didn't address your substantive points.
I posted the article because I admire much of Nick Kollerstrom's work. I did not de-construct it first and I did not subject its claims to verification other judging it against what I already know about the Muslim communities in Leeds and elsewhere; which is that they feel under siege and seriously threatened by the Security and SIS apparatus that claims to be their protectors.
As among all comparably demonised minorities, there are the 'House Negroes' whose lives become comfortable and whose importance and career advancement is assured by adopting the positions they do adopt. You and I know who they are and the Establishment organisations they front, whilst claiming to be the authentic voice of Muslim 'moderates' in this country. But the 'House Negoes' (or 'House Niggers' as their race was more often described - shades of Rag-Heads, Sand-Niggers and the like which our latter-day Western Establishment Enforcers apparently find so amusing) are vastly outnumbered by the indentured 'Field Negroes' who live hand to mouth and in fear of the 'Massa'. So it is with the vast majority of the Muslim population of this country, and if you think differently you should try speaking to a few.
Having had them pointed out, I agree that the claims made on the David Icke forum contain serious errors. So thanks for correcting them. The motives behind those posts and thus the loyalties of the poster, are open to serious question though. They are the sort of thing that I do NOT accept at face value - and I agree, neither should Nick Kollerstrom.
I also agree that accepting them at face value IS a good example of confirmation bias. But the lesson I draw is probably different from your own. They may indeed be an example of a simple over-zealous Muslim man trying to rubbish the official narrative and getting his facts arse about face. But, in light of repeated calls for coordinated 'cognitive infiltration' of dissident groups by you-know-who, they are just as likely to be something quite different.
I posted the article because I admire much of Nick Kollerstrom's work. I did not de-construct it first and I did not subject its claims to verification other judging it against what I already know about the Muslim communities in Leeds and elsewhere; which is that they feel under siege and seriously threatened by the Security and SIS apparatus that claims to be their protectors.
As among all comparably demonised minorities, there are the 'House Negroes' whose lives become comfortable and whose importance and career advancement is assured by adopting the positions they do adopt. You and I know who they are and the Establishment organisations they front, whilst claiming to be the authentic voice of Muslim 'moderates' in this country. But the 'House Negoes' (or 'House Niggers' as their race was more often described - shades of Rag-Heads, Sand-Niggers and the like which our latter-day Western Establishment Enforcers apparently find so amusing) are vastly outnumbered by the indentured 'Field Negroes' who live hand to mouth and in fear of the 'Massa'. So it is with the vast majority of the Muslim population of this country, and if you think differently you should try speaking to a few.
Having had them pointed out, I agree that the claims made on the David Icke forum contain serious errors. So thanks for correcting them. The motives behind those posts and thus the loyalties of the poster, are open to serious question though. They are the sort of thing that I do NOT accept at face value - and I agree, neither should Nick Kollerstrom.
I also agree that accepting them at face value IS a good example of confirmation bias. But the lesson I draw is probably different from your own. They may indeed be an example of a simple over-zealous Muslim man trying to rubbish the official narrative and getting his facts arse about face. But, in light of repeated calls for coordinated 'cognitive infiltration' of dissident groups by you-know-who, they are just as likely to be something quite different.
Peter Presland
".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
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"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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