10-02-2011, 08:18 PM
King Abdullah Rising To the Top of the Regime Change Line
10 02 2011 This is logical.
MOSTAQUE ALI
Negotiations should begin immediately if they have not already done so between the foreign ministries of Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the Gulf Arab countries about creating special funds for protecting their regimes from chaotic, Western funded Revolutions which bring utter Chaos, and Balkanisation to the Middle East. This is an issue of self preservation…….it was meaningless for the Shah of Iran to deposit $20 billion of the country's money in Western banks since frozen, after he was toppled by the USA/UK/France/Israel. It was meaningless for the Shah to have spent $28 billion in defense purchase from the USA (19691977.) only to be toppled by the USA/UK/France/Israel, because his weapons systems were worthless without Western spares.
It is meaningless for Egypt to buy $50 billion worth of arms from the USA if they destabilize Egypt, or put the nations money in Western Banks. Mubarak has a few billion $ which can be used to protect the country. It is worthless for Saudi Arabia to buy $100 billion worth of arms from the USA ……….if the USA after Egypt decides to destabilize the country in another color coded Revolution.
It does however make sense for the Middle East countries to work together, and help each other in the face of American treachery, and Imperial designs either for Eretz Israel, or their own Imperial goals.
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Exclusive: Saudis told Obama to back Mubarak
Hugh Tomlinson of the London Times.
Saudi Arabia has threatened to prop up President Mubarak if the White House tries to force a swift change of regime in Egypt.
In a testy personal telephone call on January 29, King Abdullah told President Obama not to humiliate Mr Mubarak and warned that he would step in to bankroll Egypt if the US withdrew its aid programme, worth $1.5 billion annually.
America's closest ally in the Gulf made clear that the Egyptian President must be allowed to stay on to oversee the transition towards peaceful democracy and then leave with dignity.
"Mubarak and King Abdullah are not just allies, they are close friends, and the King is not about to see his friend cast aside and humiliated," a senior source in the Saudi capital told The Times.
Two sources confirmed details of the King's call, made four days after the people of Egypt took to the streets. The revelation of Saudi concerns sheds new light on America's apparent diplomatic paralysis and lays bare the biggest rift between the nations since the oil price shock of 1973.
The tough line from Riyadh is driven by concern that Western governments were too eager to shove aside Mr Mubarak when the uprising began, without proper consideration of what should follow him.
"With Egypt in chaos, the kingdom is Washington's only major ally left in the Arab world and the Saudis want the Americans to remember that," said a source in Riyadh.
Egypt is the fourth-highest recipient of American aid after Afghanistan, Pakistan and Israel, with most of the money going to the Armed Forces. Slashing this was seen as a key weapon in Washington's armoury should it wish to force Mr Mubarak from office, but Riyadh's intervention seriously undermines America's leverage.
The White House declined to comment yesterday, saying that the Administration did not divulge what other leaders said to Mr Obama. The King is in Morocco, recuperating from surgery on his back late last year in New York. Behind the scenes, however, the octogenarian monarch has been sticking his neck out for his longstanding friend in Cairo the pair are believed to be speaking daily.
Immediately after his phone call with Mr Obama, the King issued a statement of support for Mr Mubarak, blaming "intruders" for meddling in Egypt's security "in the name of freedom of expression, exploiting it to inject their destructive hatred".
Riyadh is feeling increasingly hemmed in by Iran and its proxies Hamas and Hezbollah. The expulsion of the Mubarak regime would not only remove a key Saudi and American ally in the region but a major bulwark against Iranian expansionism. "[The uprising] is a very dangerous phenomenon. If we encourage it, anything could happen. Iran or al-Qaeda might take advantage," said a Saudi official.
The inconsistent messages from American politicians since the crisis in Egypt began have also irritated the kingdom. "There is certainly quite strong disagreement with the Americans on the messaging. They can understand why Western countries have taken the positions they have, but they are not convinced it's been thought through. They see the Americans as abandoning long-term allies," said a Western analyst in Riyadh.
Behind the scenes, the Saudi leadership has been urging Mr Mubarak for some time to begin the process of reform and was dismayed that last year's parliamentary elections were so blatantly rigged. Many Saudi citizens express private admiration for the courage of the protesters in Tahrir Square.
In the interests of stability, however, the kingdom has insisted that Washington should deal with Omar Suleiman, the Egyptian Vice-President, and not undermine him. The signs are that Washington has heeded the appeals for caution from Riyadh and elsewhere. The Administration, which appeared ready last week to sever America's 30-year alliance with Mr Mubarak, is now placing greater emphasis on stability in its public statements, while keeping up pressure on Mr Suleiman to push ahead with reforms.
The White House expressed frustration last night with the "lack of steps" Cairo has taken to meet protesters' demands. "It is clear that what the Government has thus far put forward has yet to meet a minimum threshold for the people of Egypt," said Robert Gibbs, President Obama's spokesman.
Ahmed Aboul Gheit, the Egyptian Foreign Minister, accused the US of "imposing on a great country like Egypt", and brushed aside American calls for more freedom as "unhelpful".
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Saudi King Abdullah Promises Mubarak: "I Got Your Back"
10 02 2011 The Times": King of Saudi Arabia threatened to support Mubarak if Washington tried to impose rapid change
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Newspaper "The Times" British "Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz, threatened the support of President Hosni Mubarak and the duration of the necessary money if the White House tried to force a quick change of the ruling regime in Egypt."The paper reported that "King Abdullah held in the twenty-ninth of last month's telephone conversation with U.S. President Barack Obama, told him of the angry tone in which not to display Mubarak to insult and humiliation." And achievement of the British newspaper adds reference to "King Abdullah has threatened to support the Mubarak regime in the event the United States withdrew its financial aid program to Egypt, which was made Washington to Cairo from which an annual $ 1.5 billion." The paper said that "the closest American ally in the Gulf clearly explained that he should be allowed to stay Egyptian President to oversee the transition to democracy in a peaceful manner, and then leaves the government with dignity
10 02 2011 This is logical.
MOSTAQUE ALI
Negotiations should begin immediately if they have not already done so between the foreign ministries of Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the Gulf Arab countries about creating special funds for protecting their regimes from chaotic, Western funded Revolutions which bring utter Chaos, and Balkanisation to the Middle East. This is an issue of self preservation…….it was meaningless for the Shah of Iran to deposit $20 billion of the country's money in Western banks since frozen, after he was toppled by the USA/UK/France/Israel. It was meaningless for the Shah to have spent $28 billion in defense purchase from the USA (19691977.) only to be toppled by the USA/UK/France/Israel, because his weapons systems were worthless without Western spares.
It is meaningless for Egypt to buy $50 billion worth of arms from the USA if they destabilize Egypt, or put the nations money in Western Banks. Mubarak has a few billion $ which can be used to protect the country. It is worthless for Saudi Arabia to buy $100 billion worth of arms from the USA ……….if the USA after Egypt decides to destabilize the country in another color coded Revolution.
It does however make sense for the Middle East countries to work together, and help each other in the face of American treachery, and Imperial designs either for Eretz Israel, or their own Imperial goals.
____________________________
Exclusive: Saudis told Obama to back Mubarak
Hugh Tomlinson of the London Times.
Saudi Arabia has threatened to prop up President Mubarak if the White House tries to force a swift change of regime in Egypt.
In a testy personal telephone call on January 29, King Abdullah told President Obama not to humiliate Mr Mubarak and warned that he would step in to bankroll Egypt if the US withdrew its aid programme, worth $1.5 billion annually.
America's closest ally in the Gulf made clear that the Egyptian President must be allowed to stay on to oversee the transition towards peaceful democracy and then leave with dignity.
"Mubarak and King Abdullah are not just allies, they are close friends, and the King is not about to see his friend cast aside and humiliated," a senior source in the Saudi capital told The Times.
Two sources confirmed details of the King's call, made four days after the people of Egypt took to the streets. The revelation of Saudi concerns sheds new light on America's apparent diplomatic paralysis and lays bare the biggest rift between the nations since the oil price shock of 1973.
The tough line from Riyadh is driven by concern that Western governments were too eager to shove aside Mr Mubarak when the uprising began, without proper consideration of what should follow him.
"With Egypt in chaos, the kingdom is Washington's only major ally left in the Arab world and the Saudis want the Americans to remember that," said a source in Riyadh.
Egypt is the fourth-highest recipient of American aid after Afghanistan, Pakistan and Israel, with most of the money going to the Armed Forces. Slashing this was seen as a key weapon in Washington's armoury should it wish to force Mr Mubarak from office, but Riyadh's intervention seriously undermines America's leverage.
The White House declined to comment yesterday, saying that the Administration did not divulge what other leaders said to Mr Obama. The King is in Morocco, recuperating from surgery on his back late last year in New York. Behind the scenes, however, the octogenarian monarch has been sticking his neck out for his longstanding friend in Cairo the pair are believed to be speaking daily.
Immediately after his phone call with Mr Obama, the King issued a statement of support for Mr Mubarak, blaming "intruders" for meddling in Egypt's security "in the name of freedom of expression, exploiting it to inject their destructive hatred".
Riyadh is feeling increasingly hemmed in by Iran and its proxies Hamas and Hezbollah. The expulsion of the Mubarak regime would not only remove a key Saudi and American ally in the region but a major bulwark against Iranian expansionism. "[The uprising] is a very dangerous phenomenon. If we encourage it, anything could happen. Iran or al-Qaeda might take advantage," said a Saudi official.
The inconsistent messages from American politicians since the crisis in Egypt began have also irritated the kingdom. "There is certainly quite strong disagreement with the Americans on the messaging. They can understand why Western countries have taken the positions they have, but they are not convinced it's been thought through. They see the Americans as abandoning long-term allies," said a Western analyst in Riyadh.
Behind the scenes, the Saudi leadership has been urging Mr Mubarak for some time to begin the process of reform and was dismayed that last year's parliamentary elections were so blatantly rigged. Many Saudi citizens express private admiration for the courage of the protesters in Tahrir Square.
In the interests of stability, however, the kingdom has insisted that Washington should deal with Omar Suleiman, the Egyptian Vice-President, and not undermine him. The signs are that Washington has heeded the appeals for caution from Riyadh and elsewhere. The Administration, which appeared ready last week to sever America's 30-year alliance with Mr Mubarak, is now placing greater emphasis on stability in its public statements, while keeping up pressure on Mr Suleiman to push ahead with reforms.
The White House expressed frustration last night with the "lack of steps" Cairo has taken to meet protesters' demands. "It is clear that what the Government has thus far put forward has yet to meet a minimum threshold for the people of Egypt," said Robert Gibbs, President Obama's spokesman.
Ahmed Aboul Gheit, the Egyptian Foreign Minister, accused the US of "imposing on a great country like Egypt", and brushed aside American calls for more freedom as "unhelpful".
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Saudi King Abdullah Promises Mubarak: "I Got Your Back"
10 02 2011 The Times": King of Saudi Arabia threatened to support Mubarak if Washington tried to impose rapid change
Newspaper "The Times" British "Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz, threatened the support of President Hosni Mubarak and the duration of the necessary money if the White House tried to force a quick change of the ruling regime in Egypt."The paper reported that "King Abdullah held in the twenty-ninth of last month's telephone conversation with U.S. President Barack Obama, told him of the angry tone in which not to display Mubarak to insult and humiliation." And achievement of the British newspaper adds reference to "King Abdullah has threatened to support the Mubarak regime in the event the United States withdrew its financial aid program to Egypt, which was made Washington to Cairo from which an annual $ 1.5 billion." The paper said that "the closest American ally in the Gulf clearly explained that he should be allowed to stay Egyptian President to oversee the transition to democracy in a peaceful manner, and then leaves the government with dignity
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