02-02-2009, 12:26 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-02-2009, 12:29 AM by Jan Klimkowski.)
Linda - some excellent Namebase-style dot joining in your post #36 above.
What we seem to have, at its most fundamental, is not only a desire to control human beings, but a fervent belief that human beings could be controlled. Like Pavlov's dogs.
The means of controlling people is an extreme, renegade, form of Behaviourism, based on pleasure and pain, reward and punishment. Combined with manipulation of the subconscious mind.
Hence all the Bluebird/Artichoke/MK-ULTRA work on dissociative states. And all the testing of hallucinogenic and psychosis-inducing drugs.
Promis was a spooky wet dream of tracking human behaviour, and using it to predict future behaviour. Again in a very crude form (although not that different from the many silly attempts used by the spooks today to "predict" future behaviour). However, it's fascinating and frightening that Earl Brian was yet another Phoenix Program veteran.
Between the "expendable" captive population in American prisons, and the "expendable" "gook" population of SE Asia in the Phoenix Program, a vast human laboratory was available to the "doctors" of MK-ULTRA (in its broad, umbrella, sense).
One little footnote. A recent biographer claimed that the spook and novelist, Anthony Burgess, based A Clockwork Orange on real behaviour modification programmes carried out in secret American military experiments, that Burgess had learned of through his intelligence connections.
So far, not so surprizing.
However the alleged location of these military experiments is a surprize. And a very suggestive one.
These experiments were said to have taken place in Fort Bliss. And Fort Bliss was where a large number of the Nazi "scientists" spirited out of Europe under Paperclip were taken.
A Nazi Blue Bird... reborn from the ashes of World World Two... in Vietnam and California... as a Phoenix???
A Phoenix Program?
Seeking to control the extremes of human behaviour through Programming.
Seeking to track and predict human behaviour through Promis.
However, as Clockwork Orange director, Stanley Kubrick, chronicled, HAL and his programmes don't always work as planned....
What we seem to have, at its most fundamental, is not only a desire to control human beings, but a fervent belief that human beings could be controlled. Like Pavlov's dogs.
The means of controlling people is an extreme, renegade, form of Behaviourism, based on pleasure and pain, reward and punishment. Combined with manipulation of the subconscious mind.
Hence all the Bluebird/Artichoke/MK-ULTRA work on dissociative states. And all the testing of hallucinogenic and psychosis-inducing drugs.
Promis was a spooky wet dream of tracking human behaviour, and using it to predict future behaviour. Again in a very crude form (although not that different from the many silly attempts used by the spooks today to "predict" future behaviour). However, it's fascinating and frightening that Earl Brian was yet another Phoenix Program veteran.
Between the "expendable" captive population in American prisons, and the "expendable" "gook" population of SE Asia in the Phoenix Program, a vast human laboratory was available to the "doctors" of MK-ULTRA (in its broad, umbrella, sense).
One little footnote. A recent biographer claimed that the spook and novelist, Anthony Burgess, based A Clockwork Orange on real behaviour modification programmes carried out in secret American military experiments, that Burgess had learned of through his intelligence connections.
So far, not so surprizing.
However the alleged location of these military experiments is a surprize. And a very suggestive one.
These experiments were said to have taken place in Fort Bliss. And Fort Bliss was where a large number of the Nazi "scientists" spirited out of Europe under Paperclip were taken.
A Nazi Blue Bird... reborn from the ashes of World World Two... in Vietnam and California... as a Phoenix???
A Phoenix Program?
Seeking to control the extremes of human behaviour through Programming.
Seeking to track and predict human behaviour through Promis.
However, as Clockwork Orange director, Stanley Kubrick, chronicled, HAL and his programmes don't always work as planned....
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war