04-05-2011, 07:46 PM
Two photoshopped dead bin Ladens not worthy of 4chan into this, I still say it's a complete hoax. Whether they buried some poor schmuck at sea or took the dead bin Laden out of the freezer for this one or dissolved some unrelated ISI house detainee in a bathtub of acid doesn't matter.
Some of the details, the conflicting details, are informative. Xinhua reported a Pakistani helicopter was fired on, one Pakistani helicopter (that one or more sent after that event?) was downed and there was a gun battle at the house. The US claims they had a helicopter that went down due to "unexpectedly hot air" at the property. It seems plausible either the ISI went in to bust up a Blackwater/CIA safehouse, or the US went in to rescue an "asset" held in an undisclosed ISI location. Either possibility could apply to bin Laden, but didn't, because he wasn't there.
The WHY NOW question shows "prior knowledge" of impending hostilities on Pakistan's part, whose foreign minister recently (last week or two) cinched a deal with Saudi Arabia for a new military partnership, a special relationship-type deal. Pakistan is moving toward a closer alliance with China away from the US, which isn't new, Pakistan has made the same overtures before, but something new is at work, probably Saudi concerns the US is burning its proxy dictators in the Arab world.
Interpreting the Mickey Leaks can lead to the opposite conclusion: that Mickey released the info on Abbottabad on schedule to order to create a backstory for the US action. Still, there is the problem of the hurried and amateur keystone-kop style cover operation, two fake dead bin Laden photoshops not worthy of 4chan into this. There is also the problem of flags and flowers assembling in NYC and DC before the announcement was made in the wee hours, jumping the gunship at a time when the most diehard patriot could be expected to arrive fashionably late dressed rather informally.
The bural-at-sea-to-satisfy-Muslim-custom just doesn't--excuse the phrase--wash. They had to foresee that it wouldn't. You don't invade a country and kill someone in mountainous central Asia then fly his body out to see somewhere for burial in order to satisfy customs and mores. DNA sequencing can't be hurried for the White House Situation Room either. May 1/2 as Walpurgisnacht, the purported date of death of Hitler and the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati might have been a bone thrown to the "conspiracy theorists" to keep them guessing and to keep things interesting, but the coincidence of no body in Hitler and Osama bin Laden's cases is again a little over-the-top even for a new group of activists in charge of psyops.
I gave this production two thumbs down while recognizing that some of the players probably have genuine talent. The problem was at the organizational level, and reflects real desperation on the part of the Obama administration.
Also, Abbottabad happens to have a poem written about it. Funny thing, since Abbott is an anglicized Aramaic word for father. In the case of the Pakistani gated community of the same name, it just so happens to come from the surname of the man who wrote the poem about the place (he) named after him(self):
Major James Abbott, Knight Commander of the Order of Bath, ~1853
According to a then-and-now graphic on cryptome, the ISI safe house was constructed during or after 2004 (a Pakistani professor says 2005 earlier in this thread).
http://cryptome.org/eyeball/obl-kill/obl-kill.htm
Some of the details, the conflicting details, are informative. Xinhua reported a Pakistani helicopter was fired on, one Pakistani helicopter (that one or more sent after that event?) was downed and there was a gun battle at the house. The US claims they had a helicopter that went down due to "unexpectedly hot air" at the property. It seems plausible either the ISI went in to bust up a Blackwater/CIA safehouse, or the US went in to rescue an "asset" held in an undisclosed ISI location. Either possibility could apply to bin Laden, but didn't, because he wasn't there.
The WHY NOW question shows "prior knowledge" of impending hostilities on Pakistan's part, whose foreign minister recently (last week or two) cinched a deal with Saudi Arabia for a new military partnership, a special relationship-type deal. Pakistan is moving toward a closer alliance with China away from the US, which isn't new, Pakistan has made the same overtures before, but something new is at work, probably Saudi concerns the US is burning its proxy dictators in the Arab world.
Interpreting the Mickey Leaks can lead to the opposite conclusion: that Mickey released the info on Abbottabad on schedule to order to create a backstory for the US action. Still, there is the problem of the hurried and amateur keystone-kop style cover operation, two fake dead bin Laden photoshops not worthy of 4chan into this. There is also the problem of flags and flowers assembling in NYC and DC before the announcement was made in the wee hours, jumping the gunship at a time when the most diehard patriot could be expected to arrive fashionably late dressed rather informally.
The bural-at-sea-to-satisfy-Muslim-custom just doesn't--excuse the phrase--wash. They had to foresee that it wouldn't. You don't invade a country and kill someone in mountainous central Asia then fly his body out to see somewhere for burial in order to satisfy customs and mores. DNA sequencing can't be hurried for the White House Situation Room either. May 1/2 as Walpurgisnacht, the purported date of death of Hitler and the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati might have been a bone thrown to the "conspiracy theorists" to keep them guessing and to keep things interesting, but the coincidence of no body in Hitler and Osama bin Laden's cases is again a little over-the-top even for a new group of activists in charge of psyops.
I gave this production two thumbs down while recognizing that some of the players probably have genuine talent. The problem was at the organizational level, and reflects real desperation on the part of the Obama administration.
Also, Abbottabad happens to have a poem written about it. Funny thing, since Abbott is an anglicized Aramaic word for father. In the case of the Pakistani gated community of the same name, it just so happens to come from the surname of the man who wrote the poem about the place (he) named after him(self):
Quote:I remember the day when I first came here
And smelt the sweet Abbottabad air
The trees and ground covered with snow
Gave us indeed a brilliant show
To me the place seemed like a dream
And far ran a lonesome stream
The wind hissed as if welcoming us
The pine swayed creating a lot of fuss
And the tiny cuckoo sang it away
A song very melodious and gay
I adored the place from the first sight
And was happy that my coming here was right
And eight good years here passed very soon
And we leave you perhaps on a sunny noon
Oh Abbottabad we are leaving you now
To your natural beauty do I bow
Perhaps your winds sound will never reach my ear
My gift for you is a few sad tears
I bid you farewell with a heavy heart
Never from my mind will your memories thwart
Major James Abbott, Knight Commander of the Order of Bath, ~1853
According to a then-and-now graphic on cryptome, the ISI safe house was constructed during or after 2004 (a Pakistani professor says 2005 earlier in this thread).
http://cryptome.org/eyeball/obl-kill/obl-kill.htm