01-06-2011, 05:42 PM
Gentlemen, to a very great extent, I have given up trying to figure it all out at the same level you and others are trying to do so. Perhaps it is a personal thing for me, given what I have been through in the past five years, given what is on my plate at this time on a personal level. Debate as you see fit; I am not here to shut off debate but if anything to jump-start it to see how others react and what they see or don't see.
As noted, I am in the middle of another project and spend much of my daily time pursuing it, but raise my head long enough to try to survey the online world of news and discussion, browsing web sites, participating in discussion boards, reading books, and otherwise being engaged in day-to-day life. The project involves some kind of still-in-development synthesis of about 25 books, and three times that many articles and monographs. It is, as well, a review of what I know, or think I know, of who I am and what I believe, that goes very far beyond the issue of whether there was a plane(s) or not on 9/11. [Gee, of course there were planes; the issue is which ones, what happened to them and their passengers, and what other flying objects -- mythical or otherwise -- were involved. As Umberto Eco said "... history has largely been the theater of an illusion...."]
"... the sinister forces which profit from the maintenance of international tension cling tenaciously to their positions..." said Nikita Khrushchev.
And it is clear as well that they brook no interference.
So the question, given the many methods of mind control, perception control, and information control at play in the world for the last half-century, is this:
To what extent am I obligated to reveal what I know, think or believe to anyone other than my self?
If you think or are alleging that I myself am an active agent of perception control, then you are obligated to provide your evidence for that as much or more than I am obligated to argue on behalf of some POV or tidbit of information I posted.
From Peter Levenda: ""Add all of this to espionage activities and you have a perfect fruit salad of paranoia, power and prestige, mixing secret government work with secret rituals and the manipulation of those sinister forces we have been studying. The secret handshake of the cult and the secret code of the intelligence agency: they both invoke the power of relationships that are beyond the reach of the ordinary human being. The cultist believes he can summon the very hounds of hell to his aid; the intelligence agent can overthrow government, terminate a politician, or call in an airstrike. Either way, the gates of the underworld are opened."
As noted, I am in the middle of another project and spend much of my daily time pursuing it, but raise my head long enough to try to survey the online world of news and discussion, browsing web sites, participating in discussion boards, reading books, and otherwise being engaged in day-to-day life. The project involves some kind of still-in-development synthesis of about 25 books, and three times that many articles and monographs. It is, as well, a review of what I know, or think I know, of who I am and what I believe, that goes very far beyond the issue of whether there was a plane(s) or not on 9/11. [Gee, of course there were planes; the issue is which ones, what happened to them and their passengers, and what other flying objects -- mythical or otherwise -- were involved. As Umberto Eco said "... history has largely been the theater of an illusion...."]
"... the sinister forces which profit from the maintenance of international tension cling tenaciously to their positions..." said Nikita Khrushchev.
And it is clear as well that they brook no interference.
So the question, given the many methods of mind control, perception control, and information control at play in the world for the last half-century, is this:
To what extent am I obligated to reveal what I know, think or believe to anyone other than my self?
If you think or are alleging that I myself am an active agent of perception control, then you are obligated to provide your evidence for that as much or more than I am obligated to argue on behalf of some POV or tidbit of information I posted.
From Peter Levenda: ""Add all of this to espionage activities and you have a perfect fruit salad of paranoia, power and prestige, mixing secret government work with secret rituals and the manipulation of those sinister forces we have been studying. The secret handshake of the cult and the secret code of the intelligence agency: they both invoke the power of relationships that are beyond the reach of the ordinary human being. The cultist believes he can summon the very hounds of hell to his aid; the intelligence agent can overthrow government, terminate a politician, or call in an airstrike. Either way, the gates of the underworld are opened."
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"