Explosion Norway

[Jan Klimkowski]

Keith - wise words, and I have many doubts as to exactly what Breivik is.

I'm starting to have some doubts:

I think at this point,that I'll wait for a toxicology report,to see if any poison was used in the shooting.Right now,it is my guess,that the 9mm bullets were not injected with the poison.We'll see........

Here's an MSM account:

A police source in Oslo told the Daily Mail: We still have to find out whether he did use the nicotine, and toxicology tests on the victims will give us the answer.

But his planning appears so meticulous that we fear he may have used the chemicals in this way. We would not put anything past this man.'

(snip)

The chief surgeon at a hospital treating victims of Norway's camp massacre said the killer used the special bullets designed to disintegrate inside the body and cause maximum internal damage.
Dr Colin Poole, head of surgery at Ringriket Hospital in Honefoss north west of Oslo, said surgeons treating 16 gunshot victims have recovered no full bullets.
He said: 'These bullets more or less exploded inside the body. These bullets inflicted internal damage that's absolutely horrible.'
Ballistics experts say so-called dum-dum bullets also are lighter in weight and can be fired with greater accuracy over varying distances.

They commonly are used by air marshals on aeroplanes and hunters of small animals.
Poole, a surgeon for 26 years at the hospital, said the bullets were 'hyper-fragmentable' and produced confusing pictures on X-rays.

'It's caused us all kinds of extra problems in dealing with the wounds they cause, with very strange trajectories. The effect they cause inside the body is like a thousand pin pricks.'

I agree that the post mortems and toxicological examination of the victims are very important.

I'm also wondering why the shooter left so many clues behind.This supposedly was/is an underground group,with secret cells,etc.Breivik,just plain talks to much!

Jan:

You asked for peoples opinions who have military experience.Well,one of the BIG lessons learned in Vietnam,was to if possible,STAY OFF THE TRAILS.Breivik,leaves a long wide trail for all to see.My gut says be wary,trouble ahead.........

I agree to a large extent.

His behaviour is strange.

I am most struck by Breivik's claim of initiation into the Knights Templar Europe in London in 2002.

He would have been just 22 or 23 years old. How and why was he chosen to be one of the twelve Justiciar Knights?

So, is this just another role-playing fantasy for a guy who loved role-playing computer games? A mummy's boy who bragged of one night stands but regarded women as walking wombs, and berated European women for breeding less than Islamic women?

It is possible.

And then I look at what we know happened.

Breivik killed 80 or 90 people, most of them children in cold blood.

He gathered and hid a veritable arsenal of weapons.

He left clearly visible traces on right-wing websites.

He is known by English Defence League (EDL) members, some of whom met him.

Aspects of his story which seem bizarre and unlikely have a degree of corroboration. For instance his claims about the Serbian Crusader General in Monrovia, Liberia in 2002. I've provided evidence in this thread about Serbian gunrunners being highly active in Monrovia in 2002. That's not proof, but it's provocative.

Then I look at the "anonymous sources" being printed by the Telegraph. These sources reveal some very important information.

One claims to have facilitated Breivik's rise through freemasonry.

A second source discloses that Breivik had plastic surgery in America, but not as part of his "mission", but because he is vain and wanted to get laid more.

So, here's a speculative alternate hypothesis:

Breivik was identified in his teens through standard psychological tests as having psychopathic tendencies.

He was recruited by intelligence agency X, and subjected to a form of mind control programming: eg hypno-narco-trauma programming.

As is common in such cases, he was then provided with a number of screen memories, and became a sleeper to be triggered as and when his controllers deemed it necessary.

Breivik is then kept largely away from the hustle and bustle of urban life: he lives with his mother in the country, rarely seeing his friends, spending his time on specific tasks (perhaps as instructed by his controllers): gather weaponry; bury it; gather bomb-making materials; bury them; write a manifesto; converse with right-wingers as "Sigurd the Crusader"; work out feverishly, using steroids; create a video; save a fine vintage bottle of wine for a special night, when you will also pay to hire and fuck a "model whore".

Again, note the change of language when Breivik's atrocious mission is determined.

More excerpts from Breivik's Knights Templar log, with my comments following.

It has been decided that the operation will be effectuated in Autumn, 2011. However, I cannot go into factors concerning why, at this point. My current funds are running low, and I have less than 15 000 Euro left with a 30 000 credit backup from my 10 different credit cards. My primary funds should cover all planned expenses without spending any of the credit.

"It has been decided the operation" will take place in Autumn 2011.

Again the curious sentence construction.

Not "I, the single Perfect Knight working alone, have decided that the operation will take place in Autumn 2011".

But "it has been decided".

By who?

So, the evidence is inconclusive.

Breivik may be a lone fantasist as Norwegian intelligence and much of MSM declares.

Or he may be a sleeper, who was triggered by his controllers to create Fear and Terror.

If Breivik is the latter, then it may be in his handlers' interests to create the legend of a self-obsessed "mummy's boy" who could have been stopped if Volkland Security agencies had more intrusive powers and ever more resources.

Keith - to quote your good self: just saying...